Who Said This?

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The way for change and freeing yourselves from the pressure of lobbyists is not through the Republican or the Democratic parties, but through undertaking a great revolution for freedom … It does not only include improvement of your economic situation and ensure your security, but more importantly, helps him in making a rational decision to save humanity from the harmful [greenhouse] gases that threaten its destiny.

  • Osama bin Laden

I have long since thrown in the towel on the Democratic and Republican parties because they are really a front group for the 1%, for predatory banks, fossil fuel giants and war profiteers…There’s a very long and consistent track record on the part of Hillary Clinton, and it’s not been favorable to women, to children, to the cause of peace, justice and a sustainable climate

  • Dr. Jill Stein

The rhetoric of greens is indistinguishable from that of people who want the United States destroyed.

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15 Responses to Who Said This?

  1. gator69 says:

    Just look at Stein’s running mate, Ajamu Baraka, and his views…

    Baraka described the vigil for the victims of the Charlie Hebdo shooting as a “white power march” and Je suis Charlie as an “arrogant rallying cry for white supremacy“…

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ajamu_Baraka#Je_suis_Charlie

    “What one generation tolerates, the next generation will embrace.”
    -John Wesley

    The pendulum has swung too far in the opposite direction, and it is in danger of toppling the entire clock.

  2. Andy DC says:

    If she can siphon some liberal votes away from Hillary, more power to her!

  3. Don says:

    Appears that the non-libertarian Johnson, running as the Libertarian candidate, is siphoning votes from Hillary.

    Hillary had to leave the 9/11 ceremonies in New York early, she wasn’t feeling well.

    Heck, Hillary may be siphoning votes from Hillary.

  4. Gosh, next thing you know Rudy’ll read Atlas Shrugged and find the saracen berserkers and the ecological nationalsocialists’ source code completely decompiled and sorted out back in 1957. The recent shift from racial to environmental purity as a driver for totalitarianism was the only significant change from looter policy goals spelt out in 1920.

  5. Michael A. Lewis, PhD says:

    So this is real science , is it?

    • tonyheller says:

      Are you on the government dole?

    • Lance says:

      His blog.

    • charles nelson says:

      Actually I’m always a bit uneasy when Tony gets on his soap box.
      That doesn’t mean I don’t agree with a lot of what he’s saying politically…(and indeed I’ve invited him to my home in Australia if he’s coming this way!) it’s just that his Politics comes from his guts, and is more about feelings than rational dissection like he does so well with the Climate Fraudsters…so he wrong foots himself and this gives his enemies succour.
      I think he should start a separate blog for his political thoughts…I’d subscribe.

      • Gail Combs says:

        CAGW was ALWAYS about politics. H. L. Mencken predicted it back in 1918.

        “The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary.” — In Defense of Women (1918)

        CAGW is just another in “endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary” used to control the general population.

        However there is also RULE 7 from Alinsky’s Rules for Radicals:
        “A tactic that drags on too long becomes a drag.” Don’t become old news. (Even radical activists get bored. So to keep them excited and involved.)

        CAGW has run out of steam. People are not willing to shell out hard earned cash to support CAGW either here or in the USA and the radical muslim invasion is the major concern now in the EU.

        WHAT TO DO? What to do???

        Go back and drag out the tried and true.

        The takeaway from Pascal Lamy’s speeches and essays (example below) is that a world government has been on the table since the 1930s and that is still the goal. The problem is getting tribal, nationalistic humans to go along with it. Lamy admits that the Cold War was a great motivator. Now they are trying CAGW and environmentalism but that is falling flat. Hillary is indicating that another Cold war or hot war maybe just the ticket to get those recalcitrant Deplorables moving in the ‘Progressive’ direction (and also get them killed off.)

        Hillary Clinton: “Russia even hacked into the Democratic National Committee … We have got to step up our game. Make sure we are well defended and able to take the fight to those who go after us…. We need to respond to evolving threats, from states like Russia, China, Iran and North Korea.” Despite the tough rhetoric, Clinton has been hammered by lawmakers and FBI officials for her reckless of handling of classified information, allowing bad actors and foreign adversaries to potentially hack sensitive U.S. government secrets.

        Yeah, Hillary NOW you complain about ‘cyber attacks’ after leaving the barn door wide open. NOW you complain about China and Russia and Iran.

        It was your husband who gave China the US military guidance systems and nuclear technology. link

        It was you who sold Russia 20% of the USA uranium.

        It was You Hillary who killed off Gaddafi and started ISIS rolling.

        It was Obama, your Democrat buddy, who gave Iran the $$$$ and the nod to get nuclear weapons.

        Side Note:
        It has been reported that Gaddafi’s son, Saif, contacted Hillary Clinton in order to come up with a deal which would have eventually allowed Libya to be a part of the so-called Western democracy, but Hillary’s Emails show that when Qaddafi son offered talks Clinton ordered top general to ‘not take the call’ after all democracy was not the goal. Crushing a threat to the Central bankers was.

        Libya was Africa’s most developed country. Remember in the early 1990’s Gaddafi ordered a crackdown on radical Islamists in eastern part of Libya.

        Washington and the EU (France) wanted to remain a dominant power politically and economically with their currencies in place instead of Gaddafi’s idea which called for the gold dinar to replace U.S. dollars and Euros. (Qaddafi’s government held 143 tons of gold, and a similar amount in silver. Where is it??)

        Zero Hedge based on the emails and sources said. “This gold was accumulated prior to the current rebellion and was intended to be used to establish a pan-African currency based on the Libyan golden Dinar. This plan was designed to provide the Francophone African Countries with an alternative to the French franc.

        Also remember that BRICS; Brazil,Russia, India, China and South America; also have been accumulating gold and set-up a development bank challenging the central bankers World Bank.

        (Could be the reason Hillary and her backers have suddenly switched tunes from Kumbya to war dance???)

        As some observers have already noticed, Hillary is obviously looking for an open conflict with Russia. Putin certainly has noticed even if Americans are too dumb to. Just read the Russian https://sputniknews.com/politics/

      • Gail Combs says:

        Pascal Lamy was Chief of Staff to EU president of the European Commission, Jacques Delors and former World Trade Organization Director-General
        Pascal Lamy: Whither Globalization?

        …This raises a final challenge: How to provide global leadership? Mobilizing collective purpose is more difficult when we no longer face one common enemy, but thousands of complex problems. The Cold War was about the clash, not just of geopolitical interests, but of big ideas — democracy against totalitarianism, freedom against state control. But the Cold War “glue” has disappeared. Big ideas risk being eclipsed by technical details. Grand alliances are weakened by petty squabbles and rivalries.

        The reality is that, so far, we have largely failed to articulate a clear and compelling vision of why a new global order matters — and where the world should be headed. Half a century ago, those who designed the post-war system — the United Nations, the Bretton Woods system, the General Agreement on Tariffs and Trade (GATT) — were deeply influenced by the shared lessons of history.

        All had lived through the chaos of the 1930s — when turning inwards led to economic depression, nationalism and war. All, including the defeated powers, agreed that the road to peace lay with building a new international order — and an approach to international relations that questioned the Westphalian, sacrosanct principle of sovereignty — rooted in freedom, openness, prosperity and interdependence.

        But the end of the Cold War produced no similar search for a new approach, a narrative we could all share. On the contrary, the Soviet collapse tended to reinforce the status quo. It encouraged the belief that we had reached the end of our policy debates, if not “the end of history,” and that foreign policy could take a back seat to more pressing domestic concerns.

        The result is a certain complacency — or, worse, paralysis — … an inability to marshal the collective vision and leadership to tackle them…

        So what is to be done? …

        To improve the way the international system works, we must “network” global governance in a better way. This should be done not by building more institutions, but by ensuring that existing ones — the WTO, the IMF, the World Bank and especially the United Nations — work together more coherently.

        To improve policy coherence, we need to build consensus…..

        …. Harnessing globalization is not about globalizing local problems, but about localizing global problems…

    • AndyG55 says:

      Luv your icon, M.A.L piled highand deep….

      says ULTRA -far left, tilty head.

      PhD is social studies, arts ?????

      • AndyG55 says:

        Oh, let me guess.. PSYCHO-ology..

        Bet ya.

        Do you know a guy called Lewendowsky?

        Friend of yours?

        You and he make mockery of PhD

  6. CapitalistRoader says:

    “Colorado Matters”, a local news program on Colorado Public Radio, interviewed Green Party senate candidate Arn Menconi:

    “We have to worry about global warming when sea levels are going to rise by 20 to 50 feet in the next 10 to 20 years.”

    http://www.cpr.org/news/story/co-senate-candidate-urges-voters-look-past-red-and-blue-to-consider-green

    • Gail Combs says:

      Beats head against wall…

      Unfortunately people rather believe these scare stories instead of data showing nothing happening at all. Especially when you look at Ice free Arctic Ocean, an Early Holocene analogue (adsabsDOTharvard.edu/abs/2007AGUFMPP11A0203F) or the highest glacier growth in Norway started 600 years ago and prior to that most glaciers had melted away. A new approach for reconstructing glacier variability based on lake sediments recording input from more than one glacier ((wwwDOT)sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0033589411001256)

      Or actual studies of sea levels during the Holocene:
      STUDY #1
      Mid to late Holocene sea-level reconstruction of Southeast Vietnam using beachrock and beach-ridge deposits

      ….backshore deposits along the tectonically stable south-eastern Vietnamese coast document Holocene sea level changes…..reconstructed for the last 8000 years….The rates of sea-level rise decreased sharply after the rapid early Holocene rise and stabilized at a rate of 4.5 mm/year between 8.0 and 6.9 ka. Southeast Vietnam beachrocks reveal that the mid-Holocene sea-level highstand slightly above + 1.4 m was reached between 6.7 and 5.0 ka, with a peak value close to + 1.5 m around 6.0 ka….

      Translation the sea level was up to 1.5 meters higher than today in a tectonically stable area ~5000 years ago to 2000 years ago. Tectonically stable area refers to areas devoid of deformation such as all processes which modify the external form of the crust. For example unidirectional vertical movements, plate tectonics and also the rise and fall of the solid earth surface, especially in coastal areas, caused by external factors such as climate change (gio-isotasy, hydro-isotasy)

      STUDY #2
      Sea-level highstand recorded in Holocene shoreline deposits on Oahu, Hawaii

      Unconsolidated carbonate sands and cobbles on Kapapa Island, windward Oahu, are 1.4-2.8 (+ or – 0.25) m above present mean sea level (msl)…we interpret the deposit to be a fossil beach or shoreline representing a highstand of relative sea level during middle to late Holocene time. Calibrated radiocarbon dates of coral and mollusc samples, and a consideration of the effect of wave energy setup, indicate that paleo-msl was at least 1.6 (+ or – 0.45) m above present msl prior to 3889-3665 cal. yr B.P, possibly as early as 5532-5294 cal. yr B.P., and lasted until at least 2239-1940 cal. yr B.P
      jsedres(DOT)geoscienceworld.org/content/66/3/632.abstract

      This study shows a sea level highstand ~1.6 meter above the present level from ~5500 years ago to 2000 years ago.

      STUDY #3
      Late Quaternary highstand deposits of the southern Arabian Gulf: a record of sea-level and climate change

      Abstract
      …..It has therefore been necessary to infer the ages of these sediments by a comparison of their stratigraphy and elevation with deposits known from other parts of the world. We regard this approach as valid because the southern Gulf coastline lacks evidence for significant widespread neotectonic uplift,…….
      …..Widespread evidence exists for a Holocene sea level higher than at present in the southern Arabian Gulf, indicating that it peaked at 1–2 m above present level, c. 5.5 ka bp……. sp(DOT)lyellcollection.org/content/195/1/371.refs

      This study shows a sea level highstand ~1 to 2 meters above the present level about ~5500 years ago.

      STUDY #4
      The Quaternary Geological History of the Santa Catarina Southeastern Region (Brazil) 1999

      The first part discusses drilling in several locations and analyzing samples. They mention dating prior to that was guesses. “…. A drilling campaign done in the domain permitted the sampling of material for 14C datings, and the obtained data confirmed some previously assumed ages. The sequence of events, that originated the Holocene deposits, has been also reconstructed through drilling and 14C dating of the collected peat and shell samples…”

      In the body of the text is this:

      THE HOLOCENE DEPOSITIONAL SYSTEM
      Partially abutted against the Pleistocene barrier island/lagoonal system III, there is the Holocene depositional system. This unit is attributable to the Santos Transgression of Suguio & Martin (1978), along the State of São Paulo coastline, or to the Last Transgression of Bittencourt et al. (1979) along the State of Bahia coastline, being similar to the barrier island/lagoonal system IV of Villwock et al. (1986), along the State of Rio Grande do Sul coastline.

      This system is related to the post-glacial transgressive episode whose culmination stage was attained about 5.1 ky BP, when a barrier island alignment was formed parallel to the shoreline, while drainage net was drowned. The subsequent regressive episode promoted the barrier island progradation following the lagoonal basin silting.

      The paleoshorelines limited by ancient cliffs carved within Pleistocene terraces, presently representing the inner limit of the Holocene terrace, shows that this sea-level reached about 4m above the present one. Several terraces situated in different altitudes, and truncation of past morphological features nowadays observed on Holocene deposits, as well as along present lagoonal margins suggest that small scale sea-level oscillations occurred during the last 5 ky….
      (wwwDOT)scielo.br/scielo.php?pid=S0001-37652000000200011&script=sci_arttext

      This study shows a sea level highstand ~ 4 meters above the present level about ~5000 years ago. With sea level oscillating since then. Not only has the sea levels have dropped since the Holocene Optimum the evidence shows that “warmer paleotemperatures were favourable for great proliferation of mollusks in the area”
      Santa Catarina Brazil is at latitude 27.2500°S and is tectonically stable.

      STUDY #5
      Holocene sea-level change and ice-sheet history in the Vestfold Hills, East Antarctica

      A new Holocene sea-level record from the Vestfold Hills, Antarctica, has been obtained by dating the lacustrine–marine and marine–lacustrine transitions that occur in sediment cores from lakes which were formerly connected to the sea. From an elevation of ∼7.5 m 8000 yr ago, relative sea-level rose to a maximum ∼9 m above present sea-level 6200 yr ago. Since then, sea-level has fallen monotonically until the present….
      (wwwDOT)sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0012821X97002045

      The above is a RELATIVE sea level. The area is not tectonically stable because the area has isostatic uplift in response to deglaciation from the Wisconsin Ice Age. The same applies to the following study.

      STUDY #6
      A new Holocene relative sea level curve for the South Shetland Islands, Antarctica

      The curve shows a mid-Holocene RSL highstand on Fildes Peninsula at 15.5 m above mean sea level between 8000 and 7000 cal a BP. Subsequently RSL gradually fell as a consequence of isostatic uplift in response to regional deglaciation….
      nora(DOT)nerc.ac.uk/15786/

      METHOD OF VALIDATION
      STUDY #7
      Sea Level Changes Past Records and Future Expectations

      For the last 40-50 years strong observational facts indicate virtually stable sea level conditions. The Earth’s rate of rotation records an [average] acceleration from 1972 to 2012, contradicting all claims of a rapid global sea level rise, and instead suggests stable, to slightly falling, sea levels.

    • Colorado Wellington says:

      Besides, “Colorado Matters” is a racist insult to “Black Colorado Matters”.

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