“you are probably looking at ice-fee summers by 2030. I’d call that a death sprital.”
Mark Serreze June 6, 2009
New NSIDC director on “death spiral” Arctic ice | Grist
“This week, after reviewing his own new data, NASA climate scientist Jay Zwally said: “At this rate, the Arctic Ocean could be nearly ice-free at the end of summer by 2012, much faster than previous predictions.”
December 12, 2007
Arctic Sea Ice Gone in Summer Within Five Years?
“We see a tipping point occurring right before our eyes,” Hansen told the AP before the luncheon. “The Arctic is the first tipping point and it’s occurring exactly the way we said it would,”
Hansen, echoing work by other scientists, said that in five to 10 years, the Arctic will be free of sea ice in the summer,
Longtime global warming skeptic Sen, James Inhofe, R-Okla , citing a recent poll, said in a statement, “Hansen, (former Vice President) Gore and the media have been trumpeting man-made climate doom since the 1980s, But Americans are not buying it.”
But Rep. Ed Markey, D-Mass., committee chairman, said, “Dr. Hansen was right. ‘Twenty years later, we recognize him as a climate prophet.”
June 24, 2008
The Argus-Press – Google News Archive Search
There has been no trend in Arctic sea ice minimum, maximum or mean extent over the past 16 years.
ftp://osisaf.met.no/prod_test/ice/index/v2p2/nh/osisaf_nh_sie_daily.txt
Favoritism, discrimination, bias, prejudice, always the Arctic, always the North polar ice cap, always polar bear territory! When is the Antarctic ice going to rate a mention?
There are millions more penguins than polar bears. The Antarctic ice is melting twice as fast as any other ice. The West Antarctic Ise Shelf has, “fingers of warm water running in under it”, according to the sciency people.
This blatant imbalance in climate “science” has to cease forthwith, or I’ll get Michael Mann to go to Antarctica. He’ll find warming AND melting ice, you’ll see!
I have no idea of the provenance of this linked news item, but it has been known since man started exploring the Antarctic continent that there is considerable volcanic activity there.
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/science/scientists-found-91-volcanoes-under-antarctica
Deep under Antarctic ice, core samples have come up with marsupial animal remains.
Also, saw ancient Chinese? map of Antarctica with warm blooded critters running around in art work.
The DMI has fixed their algorythm so that any time the artic ice cover area begins approching the norm for their 1981-2010 average they immediately drop the coverage area over 100,000 km^2 to get in back to the propaganda line.
https://ocean.dmi.dk/arctic/icecover.uk.php
Yeah it seems that way. They say that the gray area is the “climate” mean +- 2 standard deviations, but at the top, the data set is declared 81-2010. So the climate is defined as a 30 year period. Seems too short for me. I wonder what it would show if they made it a rolling 30 year period? Or simply added the last ten years to the data set, making it a 40+ year period. What makes 81-2010 special? And then why don’t they go back as far as their data goes, even if the data sampling was sparse in earlier times, it still is data. It could be adjusted to fit with the newer data set. I mean, adjusting old data sets to match up with modern data sets has never been a problem for Mickey Mann and NOAA,
There are a whole bunch of things wrong with this:
It may not be happening. We can’t tell because the data has been messed with so much.
It may have nothing to do with CO2. Probably very little, if any, of it does.
If it happens, then so what? The biosphere has existed for over 500 million years with CO2 as high as 7000 ppm.
Regardless of what the CO2 level has been, it appears that the Earth’s mean temperature keeps moving to 77F over time and staying there for long periods of time. It might be the natural equilibrium temperature for the planet, and life does just fine at that temperature.