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“..as only vegetation could do..”
translation:
“we can’t think of anything else that would behave like that”
Sounds strikingly familiar.
Yes what a time for science.
Relying on the good character and judgment of the highly esteemed to decide what was worthy and what was not. Halcyon days of great men experimenting with eternal luminiferous aether, and working with phlogistan to bring us nature’s truths.
Nothing like that today,eh?
Wallace Thornhill: Reinterpreting the MAVEN Mission to Mars
http://youtu.be/xoY2s3l3c9g
He is not a very lucid speaker. He assumes his audience already know his theory. Too difficult to follow.
Early climate model predictions, some things never change.
Completely off subject-and something you all may already know, but I think you might find this interesting. I checked MN and CO senators-voted 4 for 4 to have us give our guns to the UN.
HOORAY – a 53-46 vote
The U.N. Resolution 2117 lists 21 points dealing with firearms control, but perhaps of most interest is point number 11. It: “CALLS FOR MEMBER STATES TO SUPPORT WEAPONS COLLECTION and DISARMAMENT of all UN countries”.
By a 53-46 vote – The U.S. Senate voted against the U.N. resolution. HOORAY.
This is that brief, glorious moment in history
when everyone stands around…reloading.
Now, Which 46 Senators Voted to Destroy Us? Well, let their names become known ! See below . If you vote in one of the states listed with these 46 “legis..traitors”… vote against them.
Two Independents and the rest were DemoRats
In a 53-46 vote, the Senate narrowly passed a measure that will stop the United States from entering into the United Nations Arms Trade Treaty. The Statement of Purpose from the Senate Bill reads: “To uphold Second Amendment rights and prevent the United States from entering into the United Nations Arms Trade Treaty.” The U.N. Small Arms Treaty, which has been championed by the Obama Administration, would have effectively placed a global ban on the import and export of small firearms. The ban would have affected all private gun owners in the U.S. and had language that would have implemented an international gun registry, now get this, on all private guns and ammo.
Astonishingly, 46 out of our 100 United States Senators were willing to give away our Constitutional rights to a foreign power.
Here are the 46 senators who voted to give your rights to the U.N.
Baldwin (D-WI)
Baucus (D-MT)
Bennett (D-CO)
Blumenthal (D-CT)
Boxer (D-CA)
Brown (D-OH)
Cantwell (D-WA)
Cardin (D-MD)
Carper (D-DE)
Casey (D-PA)
Coons (D-DE)
Cowan (D-MA)
Durbin (D-IL)
Feinstein (D-CA)
Franken (D-MN)
Gillibrand (D-NY)
Harkin (D-IA)
Hirono (D-HI)
Johnson (D-SD)
Kaine (D-VA)
King (I-ME)
Klobuchar (D-MN)
Landrieu (D-LA)
Leahy (D-VT)
Levin (D-MI)
McCaskill (D-MO)
Menendez (D-NJ)
Merkley (D-OR)
Mikulski (D-MD)
Murphy (D-CT)
Murray (D-WA)
Nelson (D-FL)
Reed (D-RI)
Reid (D-NV)
Rockefeller (D-WV)
Sanders (I-VT)
Schatz (D-HI)
Schumer (D-NY) carry’s a gun 24/7
Shaheen (D-NH)
Stabenow (D-MI)
Udall (D-CO)
Udall (D-NM)
Warner (D-VA)
Warren (D-MA)
Whitehouse (D-RI)
Wyden (D-OR)
Folks: This needs to go viral. These Senators voted to let the UN take OUR guns. They need to lose their next election. We have been betrayed.
46 Senators Voted to Give your 2nd Amendment Constitutional Rights to the U.N.
Please send this to SOMEONE
They swore an oath to defend their constitution so they should be shot.
Crimea referendum violates Ukraine’s constitution but the overthrow of an elected government is not against the constitution. In Kiev, we are dealing with a coup so the constitution is no longer in effect. Obambie wants people to respect a foreign constitution no longer in effect but does not respect his own constitution.
http://youtu.be/p0zWVXT9wj8
More about Ukraine’s Coup d’Etat
http://www.globalresearch.ca/polands-hand-in-ukraine-coup-detat-trained-putchists-two-months-in-advance/5378655
Bastards.
Our two communist Senators from MD voted for the ban.
The majority consensus among Japanese is that whaling is fine. Greenpeace and climate alarmists must get behind the pro-whaling lobby in Japan. The whaling majority should have the same weight as the so called “climate expert majority”. Bloody whaling deniers!!!
http://japandailypress.com/60-of-japanese-in-support-of-continued-whaling-while-only-only-14-eat-the-meat-2347643/
I don’t agree with whaling exactly the same as I don’t agree with CAGW. Both are money grubbing schemes dressed up in crap science.
Can’t you find relevant science to support your position?
You don’t have any interest in science, as you are a religious true believer.
A more recent paper looking at glaciers in Norway.
The authors of BOTH papers simply state that most glaciers likely didn’t exist 6,000 years ago, but the highest period of the glacial activity has been in the past 600 years. This is hardly surprising with ~9% less solar energy.
Also Sea levels have FALLEN:
The IPCC actually said in the Science Report in TAR:
“In climate research and modeling, we should recognize that we are dealing with a coupled non-linear chaotic system, and therefore that the long-term prediction of future climate states is not possible.’ – I 2001 section 4.2.2.2 page 774
A paper from 2007 “Lesson from the past: present insolation minimum holds potential for glacial inception” says
A fall 2012 paper Can we predict the duration of an interglacial? ‘ says…
The paper gives the solar insolation and CO2 for termination of several interglacials. I extracted the 21 June solar insolation @ 65? N for several glacial inceptions:
Current value for today is insolation = 479 W m?2,
MIS 7e – insolation = 463 W m?2,
MIS 11c – insolation = 466 W m?2,
MIS 13a – insolation = 500 W m?2,
MIS 15a – insolation = 480 W m?2,
MIS 17 – insolation = 477 W m?2,
Are we headed into glaciation? Who the heck knows however the solar insolation is now low enough to support flipping the climate into glaciation and since 2005 no more papers have come out since Lisiecki and Raymo’s 2005 rebuttal of Loutre and Berger’s 2003 astronomical model.
1. Onset of the Little Ice Age was right when the Holocene reached about half a precession cycle old.
3. The Modern Warm Period coincides with the Grand Solar Maximum.
And that solar activity is ceasing:
3. Five of the 6 interglacials dating back to the Mid Pleistocene Transition have each lasted just half of a precessional cycle. The extended interglacial was MIS-11. Please do note, however, that MIS-11 was not all that stable a climate and it got awfully cold between MIS-11?s two insolation peaks.
4. The climate can change very abruptly (thus supporting chaos theory model of climate) with the switch from the Wisconsin Ice age to the Holocene occurring in a couple of years.
In his book, The Two-Mile Time Machine: Ice Cores, Abrupt Climate Change, and Our Future Richard Alley, one of the world’s leading climate researchers, tells the fascinating history of global climate changes as revealed by reading the annual rings of ice from cores drilled in Greenland. In the 1990s he and his colleagues made headlines with the discovery that the last ice age came to an abrupt end over a period of only three years….
(wwwDOT)amazon.com/Two-Mile-Time-Machine-Abrupt-Climate/dp/0691102961
Aside from Loutre and Berger’s 2003 astronomical model, which was soundly trounced by Lisiecki and Raymo’s 2005 rebuttal, there has only been one well-accepted means of preventing glacial inception discussed in the literature: greenhouse gases. Can anyone suggest another means of delaying or preventing glacial inception except GHGs?
This is the perspective. The summer solstice insulation minimum during MIS-11 at 65N was 489 Watt/m2 and it was 474 Watt/m2 in ~2005 (Lisiecki and Raymo, 2005). You need 15 Watt/m2 to get to the insolation minimum in MIS-11. I am not familiar with any CO2 estimates which correlate with a 15 Watt/m2 rise in atmospheric forcing.
MY CONCLUSION
The only ‘Tipping Point’ available is towards glaciation and the timing is anytime now. Even if we do not go into glaciation it is going to be cold not warm. In other words the Warmists are just blowing smoke and the IPCC has completely ignored what geology is saying on the subject.
Gail, just happened to check back and saw your statements-Thanks- I think you should repost this again later. This is what some of us look for and you might consider WUWT
or Climate etc
And maybe the missing Malaysian jetliner sunk into the seas of the moon. They need to get the pinger finder up there.