A few years ago, the genius Tamino did a blog post saying how stupid I was for claiming that snow cover was increasing.
http://climate.rutgers.edu/snowcover/table_area.php?ui_set=1&ui_sort=0
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Don’t u know nothing Steven … all that increased snow is prove positive of warming … I was just lectured that the above average global sea ice is due to warming because, you know, Antarctica is different 😉
hopefully sarc tag isn’t necessary
Northern Hemisphere? But that’s only half the world. That’s irrelevant. It’s “global warming,” not “northern hemisphere warming.”
ROFLMAO. They hardly get any snow in the southern hemisphere. The land is too far away from the pole.
Good point, this is something many people don’t know or don’t pay attention. Snow and ice in the SW is mainly located in Antarctica.
And that also was at record levels.
The snow in the southern hemisphere mostly falls on the ocean which is the reason sea ice increases because of stratification and salinity discharge. You see, the southern ocean is warming so there is less sea ice, so there is less sea ice melt to dilute the ocean so it’s saltier, so it sinks to the bottom and takes all the heat with it, and leaves fresh water at the top which freezes, because of the wind, which is only worse because the southern hemisphere is getting colder due to global warming. It’s cold because of warming and the ocean is fresher because it’s saltier. Yeah. Can I have my government grant now?
Dunno, we get a bit in Dunedin and I usually get cut off by snowdrifts for a couple or so days in the year. And we have heaps in the Alps – supports a pretty valuable ski industry.
So what are the statistics for the southern Hemisphere? Here’s a hint. Check the sea ice coverage around Antarctica.
… that has just passed the +1 million km2 anomaly, again!! 🙂
http://arctic.atmos.uiuc.edu/cryosphere/IMAGES/seaice.anomaly.antarctic.png
meaning: it’s growing too!! 🙂
I read somewhere that Antarctica is technically a desert. Is this true, anyone?
British Antarctic Survey says the average precipitation across the entire continent is 150 mm per year. Varies from an inch or so at the pole to a few metres on the coast.
Metres of snow that is.
Short answer – yes.
Since 90% of the world’s carbon dioxide emissions come from the northern hemisphere, it should be called “Northern Hemisphere warming” and not global warming. Us southerners are tired of being denigrated when the problem is caused by northerners. We are more than doing our bit freezing up Antarctica to record levels. It’s about time the north started sharing the load. Extra snow is a start. We’d like to see some serious ice formation. When the Black Sea, Caspian Sea and the Mediterranean Sea freeze up, we’ll know you are serious. Otherwise us Southerners will secede from the UN! You have until New Years Day!!!
Tamino dissed you? That guaranteed you were right. As Custer said in “Little Big Man”, he is a reverse barometer!
I’ll bet his argument amounted to a strawman.
Steve, Are you taking lessons from Mikey Mann on how to draw a Hockey Stick?
Now plot that next to the CO2 graph.
The vast majority of it is first year snow, and is becoming thin and rotten.
How does snow “rot”?
You have never seen “yellow” snow? 😉
Steve,
John Cook has his crap research paper pulled by the Vice Chancellor of UQ. LMAO!
http://www.uq.edu.au/news/article/2014/04/paper-retracted-legal-grounds
That is hilarious. In other words “this paper is crap and we are afraid we will get our asses sued”
No doubt this has been factored into the climate models as an increase in albedo in the Northern Hemisphere.
Sorry,,,, correction –
That would demand that the models reflect real world events and that is not going to happen any time soon is it?
You fool me (-; There is obviously added a hockey stick in data for special calculation date.
I know for a fact that it was all thin, rotten, first-year snow up where I live. Once it all melts in the Summer, there are processes which will rapidly lead to snow-free Winters. My paper is anxiously awaiting publication &/or peery view.