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As the editor of a once prestigious research journal told me over forty years ago, “One of these days your sense of humor is going to get you in trouble!”
omanuel I’ve been reading some of your work out of curiosity, I don’t understand much of it but, nevertheless there are some very interesting scientific ideas being raised. I’ve began writing a program to explore the Idea that the sun was formed with a pulsar core, although I’m skeptical of the idea, I have to say that I’m able to replicate solar activity, 11 year cycles of varying intensity, 22 year magnetic cycle, I’m also able to replicate prolonged solar minimums and intense solar maximums.
I should be able to work out a solid mathematical model and basic principles for solar activity based on the idea, I don’t understand why a solar dynamo should behave this way, according Lsvalgaard the 11 year solar cycles are random according to the dynamo theory.
What’s going on here?
L.S. works for Stanford University in California, home of Paul Ehrlich. “Dr. Paul Ehrlich is a Stanford University biologist and author of the best-selling book The Population Bomb.” He wrote books with Obama’s Science Czar John Holdern that included the statement calling for “a massive campaign … to de-develop the United States”
Read the ‘news’ from Stanford University
That is the culture that L.S. lives in.
You might also want to read this which contradicts much of what L.S. is saying. OH and do not forget that L.S. and his friends are busy ‘Adjusting’ the sunspot number history….
A History of Solar Activity over Millennia
ya G. Usoskin
Sodankyl ? Geophysical Observatory (Oulu unit)
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FIN-90014 University of Oulu, Finland
As a chemist/quality Engineer I was pleased to see:
3.7 Verification of reconstructions
3.7.1 Comparison with direct data
Comparison between isotopes
Instead of “I am the expert!” I also noticed that L.S. never went to Nir Shaviv’s website to directly confront him after saying he was wrong on WUWT despite my suggestion he do so.
Thanks Gail, I’ll keep that in mind. I don’t usually toe any particular line when it comes to understanding about the variety of science I like to explore, But I am very aware about people like Paul Ehrlich and their fear mongering.
I don’t know L.S personally, but I believe his intentions are purely scientific, even though he can be short tempered and frustrating to have a discussion with sometimes. Although it’s interesting to note, L.S has an interest in defending his own theories etc…
“… although I’m skeptical of the idea, I have to say that I’m able to replicate solar activity, 11 year cycles of varying intensity, 22 year magnetic cycle, I’m also able to replicate prolonged solar minimums and intense solar maximums… ”
That’s interesting. 🙂
Would it be possible to publish these results as a pdf-file somewhere, explaining the hypotheses you made and the general idea of the calculations?
I read some of Omanuel’s papers too but the problem of the density of the Sun was impossible to solve without a complete reformulation of the gravitational law, then I gave up. Omanuel’s idea of “neutron repulsion” seems as simplified version of the presently accepted description of nuclear (strong) forces.
Dmh,
I’ll be happy to publish about the general idea, I’m actually a bit taken aback by how well it works, some more insight on the subject would be welcome.
If our sun and solar-system formed from a supernova remnant in a nebula, there’s a whole-lot more going on with star formation, it may also explain why out of all the main sequence stars we know of, or star is the only one which has a solar-cycle.
What’s going on?
FEAR of nuclear annihilation of the whole planet scared world leaders into taking totalitarian control at the end of WWII, after it was discovered that:
Japan exploded an atomic bomb off the coast of Konan, Korea on 12 Aug 1945.
Stalin’s USSR troops captured Japan’s atomic bomb facility on 24 Aug 1945.
Frightened world leaders formed the United Nations on 24 Oct 1945.
The source of energy (E = mc2) in cores of atoms and stars – Neutron Repulsion – was hidden from the public in 1946 by the
_ a.) Standard Nuclear Model
_ b) Standard Solar Model
George Orwell started writing a futuristic novel in 1946:
“Nineteen Eighty-Four”
Those obscure events of 1945-1946 may explain why we ask today, “What’s going on?
The last paragraph of Aston’s Nobel Prize Lecture (12 Dec 1922) explains why world leaders were afraid in 1945.
I don’t understand this!
“They were actually deceptive. If they had not been so obscure and so confusing, this kind of philosophy would not have held its own very long. But most men revere words that they can not understand and consider a writer whom they can understand to be superficial. That is a touching sign of modesty.” – Albert Einstein on the works of Aristotle (In Letters to Solovine)
modesty?
Monty Childs, researcher of “Safire” and the Electric Universe / Plasma model
http://youtu.be/JN8QwGq3pF0
It’s not about this!
Yeah, but it supposedly wasn’t a “consensus”. You’d have to have experts like that saying the same thing, and even go on TV shows to espouse their views.
Of course, no other experts ever did that.
Of course, no other experts ever did that.
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ERRRrrrr, that is not quite correct.
Prophet of the Next Ice Age
At nearly the same time the Club of Rome commissioned the book:The Limits to Growth (1972) Also in 1972 Club of Rome member Maurice Strong started drumming up support for the “Global Warming” and “Environmentalism scam at the UN First Earth Summit according to Journalist Elaine Dewar, who interviewed Strong. She wrote in Toronto’s Saturday Night magazine:
Global Warming as well as Environmentalism were turned into a club to beat people into accepting poverty as there just due because of their ‘guilt’ in defiling Mother GAIA.
In the meanwhile geologists are still trying to figure out when we descend into the next glaciation (we are already in an Ice Age) and if we are lucky enough to have the Holocene (MIS1) be a double precession interglacial like MIS11 instead of the usual half precession interglacial. – by the Milankovitch cycles we are just past the half precession point. That is why CAGW is so utterly laughable.
William McClenney, a geologist who has written quite a bit about the next glaciation at WUWT (you can search his name and come up with his posts)
McClenney said in one of his less cryptic comments:
Like me William has no kids and is a bit fed-up with the screaming chicken-little-AlGoreical followers.
With “current insolation values are not predicted to return to the high values of late MIS 11 for another 65 kyr.” Civilization should be preparing for a COLD DRY CLIMATE and not trying to wreck our present technology, or restrict emitting life giving CO2.
We should be pursuing nuclear power and desalinization plants. Note that Maurice Strong’s company is selling nuclear reactors
The head games the elite are playing with us are enough to drive an intelligent person nuts!
“… Naturally tipping the Holocene into the next ice age, however, might bring great benefit to society by selecting-out those with climate myopia as well as other intellectual ailments…”
LOL!!
I really do love William’s sense of humor.
He had a discussion with a couple of warmists at WUWT that was quite amusing.
It starts HERE
Kukla is still alive at 84 AFAIK and still believes an Ice Age starts with a period of global warming…
William McClenney often points to the fact there were two thermal (warming) pulses before the drop into the Wisconsin glaciation that ended the Eemain interglacial and the Modern Warm Period is pluse #2….
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2013/02/12/uv-shift-in-the-leaked-ipcc-report-more-inversion-of-the-scientific-method/#comment-1223835
Note: You get a sea-level highstand during/because of a ‘Thermal Pulse”
(I really wish they would write in plain English.)
Darn, I didn’t check that I only had three links. Sorry Steve, you need to go fishing in the sea again.
What caused the “thermal pulses” at the end of the interglacials? Solar maximums?
I do not know what caused the ‘Thermal Pulse’
Several possibilities. Two are a Solar Maximum or possibly lunar forcing/ bond event.
The influence of the lunar nodal cycle on Arctic climate
E. M. Smith looked at the long term lunar forcings. The most recent post:
chiefio(DOT)wordpress.com/2014/02/16/tides-vectors-scalars-arctic-flushing-and-resonance/
(has links to several other papers and discussions)
And so did Clive Best (PhD in High Energy Physics) starting with this post:
clivebest(DOT)com/blog/?p=5572
There are lots of tantalizing Ideas out there. Dr Robert G. Brown at Duke University said: @WUWT on September 16, 2012 at 11:00 am
Even the IPCC in TAR agreed that climate is best described by ‘Chaos Theory’ where the climate is relatively stable when in the cold stable state or warm stable state but as Dr. Brown put it when it is “solidly into the bistable regime” sustained fluctuations can drive it to the opposite state.
In other words the climate enters a region where it is NOT STABLE and can fluctuate wildly as the earth gets near the transition point. Unfortunately that seems to be the state we are in right now.
William McClenney discusses this unstable region in On “Trap-Speed”, ACC and the SNR
Pretty darn frightening to think the climate can change from glacial to interglacial IN ONE YEAR! And these idiots want us to believe it was an increase in CO2 that brought us out of the Wisconsin Ice age???
McClenney’s article on …what were the end extreme interglacials like?
(SNR = Signal-to-noise ratio)
What is so DARN frustrating is none of this is new AND our Congress Critters are well aware of it.
Look at the dateline.
1911 – Milutin Milankovitch started studying the ice ages, and as a prisoner of war (WWI), he worked on his theory that variations in eccentricity, axial tilt, and precession of the Earth’s orbit determined climatic patterns on Earth through orbital forcing.
1955 – Cesare Emiliani, counted seven ice ages.
1960s – George Kukla confirmed Cesare Emiliani findings that there were more ice ages than just four recent glacial ages, with long interglacials between them.
1965 – Debate over contradictory findings is so spirited that the National Science Foundation held a special conference to try to settle the dispute. link
1965 Wallace S. Broecker dated fossil coral reefs in the Florida Keys and the Bahamas. The three known periods of high sea levels closely correspond to the warm periods calculated by Milankovitch in his radiation curve for lat. 65Deg N.
1969 – International scientific congress in Paris – Broecker and Kukla meet, Imbrie talks to Shackleton
1969 – 1970 bad harvests world wide hidden from public.
1971- International Decade of Ocean Exploration, a group of scientists and researchers organized a series of studies known as CLIMAP — the Climate Long Range Investigation, Mapping and Prediction project.
1972 – Maurice Strong, a member of the Club of Rome was warning of ‘Global Warming’ at the UN’s First Earth Summit.
1974 – CIA report on the threat of ‘Global Cooling’
1976 – paper by Hays, Imbrie, and Shackleton, “Variations in the Earth’s Orbit: Pacemaker of the Ice Ages” was published. This was the paper that put the Milankovitch Cycles on the map.
Both Nigel Calder at the time and more recently Gerald Roe connected the Rate of ice change to the Milankovitch cycles. link
1970s – USA government goes from pro-manufacturing to anti-manufacturing and the labor force employed in manufacturing goes from 24% in the 1970s to less than 9% now.
1987 – UN floats trial balloon to see if the public can be scared into compliance through propaganda and gets The Montreal Protocol on Substances that Deplete the Ozone Layer passed.
1988 – IPCC was established. The IPCC mandate states:
Given the geological data from the preceding decades the idea humans cause climate change is really ludicrous.
1989 The Greenland Ice Sheet Project Two* (GISP2) began
SUMMER 1992 – Dr. Richard B. Alley (Penn State) discovers the transition from the Wisconsin Ice Age to the Holocene happened in ONE YEAR!
GISP2 is funded by the United States National Science Foundation Division of Polar Programs as a part of the Arctic System Science Initiative (ARCSS). The 109th TAG Air National Guard, Schenectady, NY, and the U. S. Air Force Military Airlift Command from McGuire Air Force Base in New Jersey provide air transport. Support at Sondrestrom Air Base in Greenland is provide by the U.S. Air Force Space Command…. You think the US government didn’t KNOW about this find within 24 hours of it occurring? (wwwDOT)gisp2.sr.unh.edu/MoreInfo/Ice_Cores_Past.html
June 1992 – Agenda 21, the Rio Declaration on Environment and Development, and the Statement of principles for the Sustainable Management of Forests were adopted by more than 178 Governments at the United Nations Conference on Environment and Development (UNCED) held in Rio de Janerio, Brazil, 3 to 14 June 1992.
12/06/92 – USA signs the UN Framework Convention on Climate Change
21/03/94 – USA ratifies the UN Framework Convention on Climate Change This despite the discovers less than two years before.
29/06/94 – The Senate Foreign Relations Committee approved the ratification of the Convention on Biological Diversity (Biodiversity Treaty) by a vote of 16 to 3. link This was a plan to move all Americans off their land into small ‘Approved’ areas leaving over 1/2 the USA as wilderness and much of the rest as ‘Restricted Areas’
1999 – Alley was invited to testify about climate change by Vice President Al Gore.
2002 – The National Academy of Sciences with Alley as chair published a book “Abrupt Climate Change”
2003 – Alley was invited to testify by the U.S. Senate Committee on Commerce, Science, and Transportation
2007 – Alley was invited to testify by the U.S. House Committee on Science and Technology
2010 – Alley was invited to testify by the U.S. House Committee on Science and Technology
That time line sure makes you think doesn’t it?
Thanks, Gail Comb, for an excellent history of the global climate scare. Insertion of the following would make your timeline even better:
1945 – FEAR of death from nuclear annihilation at the end of the Second World War convinced world leaders to take totalitarian control of society by:
_ a.) Forming the United Nations on 24 Oct 1945
_b.) Using conscious models to hide the energy in cores of stars and atoms
According to Pascal Lamy the decision to form a world government was made in the 1930s. League of Nations (1919–1946) Then we had WWII in the 1940s and as you said the nuclear weapons development and the formation of the UN. This time the decision ‘stuck’ most probably as you said from fear of nuclear annihilation.
Correction:
_ b.) Using consensus models to hide the energy in cores of stars and atoms
This was before the church received a vision from the spirit of Gaia telling of a pot of climate gold.
Yes, a pot of climate gold! Why am I reminded of a certain breakfast cereal leprechaun saying, “Pink hearted socialists, yellow movie stars, green energy scammers, all these and a pot of climate gold in every box of CO2 Charms!”
It wasn’t a global cooling consensus. It was just “widely accepted” that “the world” was “cooling” (c) William Connolley.
The fact that a widely accepted idea of a cooling world is another way of describing a global cooling consensus, is of no interest of course.
No, No!
You do not understand.
A “Consensus’ is when a bunch of Marxists debate a thesis and an antithesis and come up with a new synthesis. Since Hegelians and Marxists agree that: Objective phenomena and events were of no consequence; only the conceptions of them possessed by human minds were real. Ideas, not objects, were the stuff of which the universe was made… and synthesis constitutes the never-ending creative process. Then a new ‘Consensus’ represents the new ‘Reality’ Therefore a “widely accepted” idea, ESPECIALLY one that is based on actual objective data, is of no consequence when compared to a ‘Consensus’ arrived at by the approved Marxist method.
(I wish I could say this with tongue in cheek.)
Well now everyone knows that the cooling is due to the warming, which only reinforces the cooling….which could case the ice age as little gaia gets a fever….you know scientific stuff.
In this little report from 1972, Prof. Hubert Lamb shows much better predictive abilities and good climate analysis than the present day warmists.
The chronological history of these discoveries led world leaders to take totalitarian control of society at the end of the Second World War.
1. Einstein found that rest mass is stored energy (E = mc2).
2. Bohr discovered that atomic rest mass is in a core that is smaller than the atom: Volume(atom)/V(nucleus) = 1,000,000,000,000,000 !
3. Aston found that atoms of the same element may have different masses. Chlorine is 75% Cl-35 and 25% Cl-37. It’s average atomic weight is 35.5.
4. Aston measured the mass of each isotope of every element and found there, “powers beyond the dreams of scientific fiction,” that once released might be uncontrollable, igniting elements like hydrogen, and our discovery be announced to the world by the birth of a new star.
– Aston’s Nobel Prize Lecture 12 Dec 1922
See last paragraph of Aston’s 1922 Nobel Prize Lecture: http://www.nobelprize.org/nobel_prizes/chemistry/laureates/1922/aston-lecture.pdf
1. Hiroshima was destroyed on 6 Aug 1945 when the powerful, fragmenting force of neutron repulsion was released from the cores of uranium atoms.
2. Nagasaki was destroyed on 9 Aug 1945 when the powerful, fragmenting force of neutron repulsion was released from the cores of plutonium atoms.
3. Japan perhaps tested its first atomic bomb on 12 Aug 1945 and Stalin’s USSR troops perhaps captured Japan’s nuclear facility on 24 Aug 1945.
[See: David Snell, “Japan Developed Atomic Bomb; Russians Grabbed Scientists,” The Atlanta Constitution Headlines (October 3, 1946) http://www.my-jia.com/The_Flight_of_the_Hog_Wild/Atlanta_Constitution_David_Snell_atomic_bomb_Korea.htm
https://sites.google.com/site/naziabomb/home/japan-s-a-bomb-project ]
4. Frightened world leaders formed the United Nations on 24 Oct 1945
5. After 1945, research funds were directed to support the “consensus scientific”
_ a.) Standard Nuclear Model
_ b.) Standard Solar Model
_ c.) Big Bang Cosmology
_ d.) Mystical Dark Energy, etc.
One explosive weapons physicist at Los Alamos (Dr. Wilbur K. Brown) tried to inform the public know that the universe is fragmenting and solar systems forming in the same way nuclear weapons fragment:
Brown, W.K.: 1970, “A model for formation of solar systems from massive supernova
fragments”, Los Alamos Scientific Laboratory report LA 4343, 28 pp.
Brown, W.K.: 1971, “A solar system formation model based on supernovae shell
fragmentation”, Icarus 15, 120-134.
Brown, W.K. and Gritzo, L.A.: 1986, “The supernovae fragmentation model of solar system formation”, Astrophys. Space Sci. 123, 161-181.
Brown, W.K.: 1987a, “High explosive simulations of supernovae and the supernovae shell fragmentation model of solar system formation”, Los Alamos National Laboratory report LA-11005, 10 pp.
Brown, W.K.: 1987b, “Possible mass distributions in the nebulae of other solar systems”,
Earth, Moon and Planets 37, 225-239.
Brown, W.K.: 1987c, “High explosive simulation of supernovae”, Pub. Astro. Soc. Pacific 99, 858-861.
Brown, W.K.: 1989, “A theory of sequential fragmentation and its astronomical applications,” J. Astrophys. Astr. 10 89-112.
Brown, W.K.: 1991, “The supernovae as a genesis site of solar systems”, Speculat. Sci. Tech. 15, 149-160.
Brown, W.K. and Wohlety, K. H.: 1995, “Derivation of the Weibull distribution based on physical principles and its connection to the Rosin-Rammler and lognormal distributions,” J. Applied Physics 78, 2758-2763.
Brown, W.K.: 2000, “The birth of planetary systems directly from supernovae,” in Origin of Elements in the Solar System: Implications of Post 1957 Observations (Kluwer Academic/Plenum Publishers) 225-240
Dmh says:
April 4, 2014 at 2:47 pm
“What caused the “thermal pulses” at the end of the interglacials? Solar maximums?”
If the sun’s polar magnetic field is in a cycle and it reverses regularly during an interglacial, obviously during a full blown ice age it does not.
That’s a good one. snicker
Ha! what is? Steven’s comment system gets more confusing than a man made climate system!
Ha! what is? …
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The idea the sun’s polar magnetic field does not reverse regularly during a full blown ice age.
You do know about the Milankovitch cycle, don’t you? link
Graph of the Holocene TSI as a result of the Milankovitch cycle.
I am leaning toward a lunar explanation of the Dansgaard-Oeschger oscillations and Bond events. link That is the latest and you work back through the links from there.
Sorry I can not easily list the links. E.M. is the best place to send people that has a nice collection of links on the subject.
Gail,
Yea I understand those cycles, I have all the links and I read E.M’s blog too, 🙂
It’s all part ‘n parcel of the solar system, working out what the pieces are and how they all fit together is the fun part.
for example, looking at the Be10 record, if extra-solar beryllium concentration found on earth is regulated by the sun, wouldn’t the sun have the potential to have prolonged periods with no polar magnetic field reversal and no cyclical activity over extended periods?
That’s a mechanism!
HMMMmmm Interesting thought.
Glad you read E.M. too. I miss his blog since he had to go back to work and only posts sparingly now.
I take it you also are familiar with Nir Shaviv and The Milky Way Galaxy’s Spiral Arms and Ice-Age Epochs and the Cosmic Ray Connection
There is a heck of a lot of information and good ideas out there… Consensus? WHAT Consensus? After all, it only takes one idea with data to back it up to shoot down the entire global warming edifice. That is why the Journals are pretty much closed to skeptics.
Of course I do, Nir Shaviv has an excellent piece of the puzzle, in huge time scales.