Joe Romm’s Integrity Reaches Record Low, As His Brain Disintegrates

Joe Romm says that icebreakers reaching the North Pole is a sign of global warming

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Arctic death spiral: Icebreakers reach North Pole as sea ice disintegrates

Icebreakers also did this in 1977, when Arctic sea ice was right at its peak.

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, Page 25 – The Winona Daily News at Newspapers.com

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22 Responses to Joe Romm’s Integrity Reaches Record Low, As His Brain Disintegrates

  1. Chuck L says:

    You are making a fundamental error is assuming Joe Romm had any integrity to begin with.

  2. Griff says:

    Yes… but look at the picture of the ice state in the article – did the soviet icebreaker push through broken ice and open water like that? I think not…

    And look at the charts showing the ice decline.

    A ship could this August sail to 86 degrees north through entirely open water… not so in 1977 – or any point before this year in the last 150 years.

  3. JRo says:

    I found Sunrise’s Swansong’s analysis illuminating (see https://sunriseswansong.wordpress.com/2016/09/11/arctic-sea-ice-disappointing-sunshine/). He makes several cogent points. One on how warming humid (a.k.a. moisture laden) air requires much more energy than warming dry air. Humid air is typically found in the tropics, and dry air in the arctics. Another point is on the high albedo of dark open water at the current solar incidence angle; that the open water reflects more sunlight (traps less heat) than the dusty, dirty, wind blown ice.

    It makes me think that simple high school experiments, using 2 liter plastic soda bottles, could show the difference between the thermal forcing of water vapor versus the thermal forcing of carbon dioxide (easily collected from the expelled soda).

    • Gail Combs says:

      RACookPE1978 a couple of years ago was kind enough to post a “spreadsheet copy” that maybe of interest.

      Gail:

      What you want to look at is the column below called “Direct Radiation Horizontal Surface”.
      Those are radiation received on the equinox for solar radiation at each latitude at noon.

      I’m going to duplicate below a “spreadsheet copy” of a spreadsheet I have for all latitudes for the actual radiation on to a horizontal surface at 12:00 on that “average” 342 watts/meter^2 day. Remember, top-of-atmosphere radiation is going to vary over the year from 1410 (high, on January 3) to the 1320 (the “low” value on July 3 each year). This is for a day in mid-September, near that “average” value on the equinox at time of minimum Arctic sea ice extents….

      It is interesting to see what the noon values are compared to Trenberth’s very unbelievable ~341 W/m^2

  4. Fred Harwood says:

    A very good Austrian friend sailed as a tourist to the North Pole in the Yamal in 1993, less than a year after launching. She said the trip was beautiful, and uneventful. I can imagine that many subsequent tourists have photos and videos of their trips.

  5. fourtimesayear says:

    It might not disintegrate so fast if they didn’t send icebreakers up there.

    • TeaPartyGeezer says:

      That’s what I was thinking.

      Icebreakers … break ice. They don’t warm ice. They don’t melt ice. They break ice. If the ice had all melted, they wouldn’t need an icebreaker, would they?

      (Melting ice is apparently the job of that magic gas … )

  6. John Silver says:

    LOL
    Oden visits the north pole most years, been there 8 times so far.
    When she isn’t hired by the incompetent Americans to keep the support lanes open to their base in Antarctica.

    http://sjofartsverket.se/en/Maritime-services/Winter-Navigation/Our-Icebreakers/Research-VesselIcebreaker-Oden/

    http://polar.se/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/arctic-ocean-2016-lars-lehnert-0996-2.jpg

  7. Andy DC says:

    In climatology, 35 years is not “long term”. If his chart went back 75 years, you would have a completely different impression, as it would include the 1940-1980 cooling that alarmists hate to talk about.

    Romm is a paid propagandist. There is only one extremist point of view. You might as well be reading Pravda at the height of the cold war.

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