Obama Wants More Icebreakers To Traverse The Ice-Free Arctic

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President Obama says it is illegal to dispute scientists who say the Arctic is ice-free, and he wants more icebreakers to prove it.

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Obama to Call for More Icebreakers in Arctic as U.S. Seeks Foothold – The New York Times

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19 Responses to Obama Wants More Icebreakers To Traverse The Ice-Free Arctic

  1. gator69 says:

    They would be needed on the occasional cold winter month. During the “ice free” summers, John Kerry will be commuting green, to North Pole for urgent press conferences on Gorebull Warming.

  2. Bill in AZ says:

    “we recognize him as a climate prophet”

    They spelled “profit” wrong.

  3. Mr GrimNasty says:

    He’s not a climate prophet. He’s a very naughty boy.

  4. Scarface says:

    Tony, did you see this change in the sea ice graph of DMI??

    From going almost as low as 2012 on August 31. 2016

    • tonyheller says:

      Bremen did the same thing yesterday. They are all FOS

      • ESTON HARDEN says:

        I notice you stopped doing the mocking stories about the sailing yacht that has almost completed its circumnavigation of the Arctic.

        • tonyheller says:

          Nonsense. They are frantically rushing to get through the Northwest Passage before it starts to freeze in about a week.

        • Gail Combs says:

          …the sailing yacht…

          SAILING YACHT????

          The darn thing has MOTORED most of the way! If they had actually tried to sail the entire way, they would still be stuck in Russia fighting ice.

          However I am sure the story will be that they SAILED the yacht just like the old wooden sail boats sailing the Arctic did. Never mind that the yacht was specifically build to deal with ice allowing it to ride up on icebergs.

          Nothing like a nicely rigged storyline is there.

          I am still hoping the fools earn a Darwin Award

      • Per says:

        It was due to loss of data from the satellite

        • Neal S says:

          So when it is later updated to be more realistic, you intend us to believe that the satellite data is now found?

          And even if there were the slightest truth to having a interruption of data, why do they then report false data which later needs to be corrected? Makes no sense at all.

          What does make sense, is that they try to lie, find out they cannot get away with it, and as a last resort tell something close enough to the truth that they cannot be proved to be lying.

          • Gail Combs says:

            All they have to do is lie for a few days so the story gets into the Propaganda Rags err news.

            “A lie can travel halfway around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes.” — Mark Twain

            Once entrenched a lie becomes even harder to dislodge. A human trait Joseph Goebbels, Adolf Hitler’s propaganda minister, counted on.
            EXPOSED TO FACTS, THE DISINFORMED BELIEVE LIES MORE STRONGLY

            A truly disturbing study from researchers at my alma mater, the University of Michigan, reveals that political partisans reacted to facts that contradicted their worldview by clinging closer to their worldview.

            In a series of studies in 2005 and 2006, researchers at the University of Michigan found that when misinformed people, particularly political partisans, were exposed to corrected facts in news stories, they rarely changed their minds. In fact, they often became even more strongly set in their beliefs. Facts, they found, were not curing misinformation. Like an underpowered antibiotic, facts could actually make misinformation even stronger.

            This bodes ill for a democracy, because most voters — the people making decisions about how the country runs — aren’t blank slates. They already have beliefs, and a set of facts lodged in their minds. The problem is that sometimes the things they think they know are objectively, provably false. And in the presence of the correct information, such people react very, very differently than the merely uninformed. Instead of changing their minds to reflect the correct information, they can entrench themselves even deeper.

            “The general idea is that it’s absolutely threatening to admit you’re wrong,” says political scientist Brendan Nyhan, the lead researcher on the Michigan study. The phenomenon — known as “backfire” — is “a natural defense mechanism to avoid that cognitive dissonance.”

  5. Scarface says:

    To almost identical as 2015 on September 4. 2016

    • Mr GrimNasty says:

      I pointed that out on the Polar Challenge thread earlier. DMI seem to have had all sorts of “issues” this year.

      • Scarface says:

        Sorry, didn’t see that. Meanwhile I have mailed DMI. Hope they respond.

        • Scarface says:

          Response from DMI:

          “An answer from our sea ice product specialist:

          Our primary target of our Sea Ice Extent (SIE) work are the long term trends that are made from the Climate Data Records (CDR, black curve). Having a SIE curve all the way to yesterday needs using 1 month worth of operational data (OPR, red curve), which uses slightly different algorithms than the CDR algorithm and behaves differently especially during summer melts. We therefore need to align the CDR and the OPR based on fitting coefficient. This procedure normally works fine with only minor corrections, but last Saturday (September 3) we had to make a larger correction, which explains the sudden rise of the OPR SIE level from approximately 2012 level to approximately 2015 level.

          This product is created in a collaboration between DMI and the Ocean and Sea Ice SAF, EUMETSAT.”

    • AndyG55 says:

      Its more in line with other approximations now. :-)

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