Arctic BS Continues

DMI and NSIDC continue to show Arctic sea ice extent declining.

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NSIDC maps show almost no change over the past two days. red shows ice loss since May 21, green shows ice gain.

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20 Responses to Arctic BS Continues

  1. RAH says:

    Modeled products will never provide the accuracy that direct observation can.

  2. Gator says:

    Great thing about models, they perform exactly as programmed.

  3. Griff says:

    Your comparison is invalid/inaccurate.

    look at NSIDC’s own chart

    https://nsidc.org/arcticseaicenews/charctic-interactive-sea-ice-graph/

    going down!

    • Gator says:

      Just as programmed!

      Who programmed you to hate poor brown people?

      • arn says:

        The more interessting question is:Who programmed her to ignore all the other non-arctic related data that is presented here or climate gate1&2 or all these fake predictions or the missing sea level rise?
        It is one thing when you have a “save the arctic fetish”
        (maybe because you like ice cube or ice-t)
        but something completely different when it is about data tampering & all the other stuff this pseudo science fail at.

        • Griff says:

          The data tampering is all in representations on skeptic websites.

          you can look at actual real time satellite data and it bears out the extent charts.

          • AndyG55 says:

            Extent is FAR above most of the last 10,000 years griff

            Stop DENYING the LIA as an anomalous EXTREME high

            Stop DENYING CLIMATE CHANGE

            it makes you look like a brain-dead parrot !!

  4. Caleb says:

    Here’s my most recent analysis. The ice is definitely thicker.

    https://sunriseswansong.wordpress.com/2018/05/24/arctic-sea-ice-sixty-days/

  5. AndyG55 says:

    In MASIE, any losses in the last week have been in peripheral regions OUTSIDE of the Arctic Ocean

    Bering Sea, Baltic Sea, Okhotsk and the tip of the Barents Sea.

    There is a LOT of thicker ice in the Arctic Ocean region itself which will take some melting.

    It really all depends on the winds and how much gets transported out through Fram Strait.

    Speaking of Fram Strait…..
    Sediments there show that the current level of sea ice is FAR HIGHER than all but the last 500 years, which was the LIA cold anomaly. Coldest period in 10,000 years

    But I guess the Arctic sea ice bed-wetters will continue to REMAIN WILFULLY IGNORANT of this fact. !

    • Griff says:

      Yes, that’s where summer ice melt starts – in the peripheral regions.

      Yet the Beaufort and Chuckchi are already starting to melt – and the ice is not thick across a large area of the central arctic.

      since the peripherals like the Bering melted early, the water there has longer to warm up. There’s already a warmer patch around Svalbard and an ice free area north of it. The ice around N Greenland is thinner than before.

      (Fram export is actually very low at present)

      • Gator says:

        If only these idiots cared as much about human life as they do about meaningless ice.

      • AndyG55 says:

        Beaufort Sea is ABOVE what it has been for last few year , except 2014

        You have been caught LYING yet again, griff

        http://masie_web.apps.nsidc.org/pub/DATASETS/NOAA/G02186/plots/4km/r01_Beaufort_Sea_ts_4km.png

        and WOW, look at the Kara Sea
        http://masie_web.apps.nsidc.org/pub/DATASETS/NOAA/G02186/plots/4km/r05_Kara_Sea_ts_4km.png
        And the East Siberian see

        http://masie_web.apps.nsidc.org/pub/DATASETS/NOAA/G02186/plots/4km/r03_East_Siberian_Sea_ts_4km.png

        With Fram export very low, its not going to be easy to melt the sea ice.

        No wonder you are REDUCED to LIES in your DESPERATION !!

      • AndyG55 says:

        Canadian Archipeligo also greater than last few years

        http://masie_web.apps.nsidc.org/pub/DATASETS/NOAA/G02186/plots/4km/r09_Canadian_Archipelago_ts_4km.png

        Oh dear, what a pity….. poor griff..

        What reason will you find now for your continual sea ice bed-wetting ??

      • AndyG55 says:

        “and the ice is not thick across a large area of the central arctic. “

        MORE LIES from griff.

        Oh dearie me, griff

        DMI ice volume just overtook 2014 for this day of year !!!

        Now more than 2014, 2013, 2008, 2015, 2011, 2012, 2017 and 2016

      • Caleb says:

        What impresses me is how thick the sea-ice is not far away from shore in the Laptev Sea. Six feet thick year where it was three feet thick last year.

        Usually winter gales blast off shore from Siberia, constantly pushing ice away from shore and creating Polynyas of open water which swiftly freeze over, and then this new “baby ice” is blown north. This makes the Laptev the greatest “exporter” of sea ice, of all the marginal seas. It also means the Laptev Sea usually has thinner ice. When the flood waters of the Lena River go pouring into it, it often melts quickly. Or so was the old pattern.

        Now we see something new. Less ice was exported, thicker ice left behind, and snowcover stubborn in central Siberia which chills and retards the Lena River floods. What is going on?

        Usually thicker ice in the Central Arctic can be blamed on high amounts of sea-ice exported from the Laptev Sea. Not so this year. What’s going on?

        I tend to agree with Tony. It is going to be a rough summer for Alarmists. Buy lots of popcorn, for it will be fun to watch.

        Anyone have any guesses on how thicker ice will be “proof” of Global Warming?

      • Andy DC says:

        With tens of billions of funding at stake, the climate alarmists are getting truly desperate, as Mother Nature refuses to cooperate. They have to keep their big lie (a looming climate catastrophe) alive at any cost, because their very livelihood depends on it.

  6. donald penman says:

    I don’t know which measure of Arctic sea ice is correct volume or extent but I think it is important to be consistent and sea ice extent started below the ten year average and remains below the ten year average today, the increase in volume is produced by model rather than observation but if it is correct then we will likely see a smaller decrease in sea ice extent as we get into summer.
    http://www.natice.noaa.gov/ims/images/sea_ice_only.jpg

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