Mark Serreze Says SOF Could Sail To The North Pole

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Mark “Arctic Is Screaming” Serreze says the Ship of Fools could sail to the North Pole.

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After unusual Arctic storms, sea ice coverage in region is plummeting

I plotted out their route across ten foot thick ice to get there.

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Serreze pulled the identical stunt in 2008.

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28 Jun 2008, Page 8 – Southern Illinoisan

Lewis Pugh made the mistake of listening to Serreze in 2008, and tried to kayak to the North Pole. He made it about 75 miles out of Svalbard before he was blocked by ice, and then of course declared victory.

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Explorer kayaks to 1,000 km from N.Pole | Reuters

The New York Times made the same claim in 2000, and said it was the first time in 50 million years.

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Ages-Old Icecap at North Pole Is Now Liquid, Scientists Find – NYTimes.com

Apparently 1958 was more than 50 million years ago, because the USS Skate surfaced in “clear water” at the North Pole on August 11, 1958.

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32 Responses to Mark Serreze Says SOF Could Sail To The North Pole

  1. Griff says:

    And he’s quite right – there is open water nearly all the way from the Russian coast to the pole, past 86 degrees North….
    http://www.iup.uni-bremen.de:8084/amsr2/

    and there’s a large area of polynas and ice at 505 concentration right up to the pole.

    There are many areas of open water close to the pole this year – it isn’t klike when Skate had to find a rare hole amidst ice ridges 50ft thick.

    • Billy Liar says:

      Too many icebreakers go to the pole for no good reason. It is unsurprising that Arctic ice is reducing when it is chopped up by icebreakers meandering around full of tourists or sightseeing ‘researchers’.

      It would be sensible to have a 5 or 10 year moratorium on icebreakers going north of 80N just to see if it makes any difference.

  2. RAH says:

    Griff can the BS. The North Pole often has open water and subs have surfaced in open water or thin ice there many times in the past. The Seadragon and Skate were there together in open water in 1962. The HMS Superb, and USS Billfish, and Sea Dragon were there together in open water or thin ice in May of 1987.

    Anyone that checks on the webcams of the buoys there over the years knows that there are many times the pole has open water or thin ice covering it.

    • Gail Combs says:

      Griff either does not understand the concept of ICEBERGS or he is trying to blow smoke up the rear of the ill informed. I vote for the second.

      Perhaps it is time to parachute people like Griff and his buddy Mark into the Arctic at the North Pole during the ‘summer’ I am sure the Poley Bears could use another snack.

    • Stewart Pid says:

      Griff is like Chicken Little polishing the turd of GLO-BULL warming alarmism. Always trying to spin or out right lie a scary story, scarier than the last scary story.
      On a different note the Crystal Serenity has gone up a fiord on Devon Island and is at the toe of a glacier off the ice sheet still covering parts of Devon. My university did a lot of work on the outcrops you see in the webcams. Good geology with nothing but exposure!! I almost made it this far north but that is another story and it is one experience that I admit to not missing terribly.
      http://www.crystalcruises.com/cruises/cruise-guidebook/our-ships/crystal-serenity/live-views

  3. Gail Combs says:

    Mark Serreze and Griff are trying to gaslight the public in an attempt to influence the US election.

    http://arctic.atmos.uiuc.edu/cryosphere/NEWIMAGES/arctic.seaice.color.000.png

    Satellite shows it pretty darn solid too.
    Mosaic Image – With Zoom – NASA

    So does Canadian Ice Service.

    http://iceweb1.cis.ec.gc.ca/Prod/page3.xhtml
    https://lance.modaps.eosdis.nasa.gov/subsets/?mosaic=Arctic

    Color code
    Light blue Less than one tenth (open water)
    Light green 1/10 – 3/10 (very open ice)
    Yellow 4/10 – 6/10 (open ice)
    Orange 7/10 – 8/10 (close ice)
    Red 9/10 – 10/10 (very close ice)

    http://www.ec.gc.ca/glaces-ice/default.asp?lang=En&n=D5F7EA14-1&offset=2&toc=show

  4. mwhite says:

    “I plotted out their route across ten foot thick ice to get there”

    Perhaps he’s refering to the location of the magnetic poles location in the 19th cenutury?
    Remember “row to the pole.” Had to get airlifted out, due to the refreeze in early September.

    • Neal S says:

      Did you even bother to look at the Sea Ice Thickness chart that Tony posted? And if you bothered to look at it, did you remember to engage your brain?

  5. Jim Hunt says:

    Tony – For some strange reason you’re attributing Andrew Freedman’s words to Mark Serreze.

    Gail – If I’ve told you once……

  6. Chris Hanley says:

    It looks like 4 m thick pack ice surrounding the Peary Peninsular where Eigil Knuth during an expedition 1947-1950 found the remains of a 35 foot long umiak probably dating from the Thule Culture (c.500 – 1400 AD):
    http://pubs.aina.ucalgary.ca/arctic/Arctic5-1-17.pdf

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