Besides being the shortest melt season on record, and the earliest start to winter on record, the Arctic is also seeing the fastest September ice growth on record.
Ocean and Ice Services | Danmarks Meteorologiske Institut
Ice extent is 40% above 2012, higher than last year and about the same as 2013. Experts describe this record growth as “rapidly disappearing” or “ice-free.”
This is OT, but I needed to vent.
From CNN’s favorite climate apocalypse writer, John Sutter; article here: http://www.cnn.com/2016/09/23/opinions/sutter-debate-climate-change/index.html
Sutter writes: “I was saddened by how much these kids have to worry about climate change. “It’s hard to think about anything else when you have this massive, overarching problem,” said Aji Piper, 16. “It gives me nightmares,” said Levi Draheim, a 9-year-old who lives in coastal Florida, which he fears will flood. “Sometimes I catch myself waking up and (I’m) just screaming.”
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I call the above CHILD ABUSE. What kind of sadistic pervert portrays such a future for children–and seems to take delight in (and profit from) it? These people are sick. Sutter is an idiot (he is apparently unable to find the NOAA Sea Level Trends page). I’m disgusted beyond words by this.
End of rant.
Good rant, and accurate. I have adult friends who have been infected with the CAGW meme. They tell me they are depressed and have trouble sleeping. Oh well… they are adults and (ought to) run their own lives. Children are another matter, and anyone who propagandizes children with imaginary fears is, in fact, a child abuser. Such sadistic criminals deserve punishment.
There are people, usually lefties, who say that telling your kids about Santa Claus and the tooth fairy is child abuse.
Sutter responded to me on Facebook. He clarified that the information came via Aji Piper, a 16-y.o. ‘climate activist’–who I would guess is loving the celebrity being a CAGW mouthpiece is bringing him.
Kids…brainwashing even younger kids. And the adults letting it–nay, encouraging and guiding it. Maybe even more disgusting.
Only bourgeois reactionaries would complain about such necessary class- and climate-aware Marxist education that will steel the young Americans and finally bring about the New Soviet Man.
Shows that the brief late summer drop was a result of unusual storminess chopping up the ice, had absolutely nothing to do with global warming.
I suppose this is one way to take your mind off other developments, such as the growing war against civilization by the jihadists and the developing tyranny within that civilization. So when these kids understand that they really don’t have a future, maybe they won’t be disappointed.
Central Arctic.
ftp://sidads.colorado.edu/DATASETS/NOAA/G02186/plots/4km/r11_Central_Arctic_ts_4km.png
What is all that supposed to prove ren?
One or more words of explanation would be good..
https://nsidc.org/data/masie/masie_plots.html
That’s zero words of explanation!
… and I thought you were an ice expert, Jim.
No Jimbo is fed from the Exeter Uni guys.
He has very little brains of his own and is totally unable of doing any basic research of his own.
A puppet, called “Poppet” by his Exeter handlers.
Jimmy Boy,
Ireneusz (REN) does not speak or write English!
Isn’t the data expressed in graphs self explanatory?
The graphs explain it all.
(a picture is worth 1,000 words)
1000 words:
WIND.. one word.
Funny that the arctic.io pic has so many clouds, though. ;-)
Better hurry for your lap of dishonour, Jimbo, the wind is turning around.
What ?! you haven’t even packed yet !
… and it was going to be so easy ;-)
Perhaps you could go find the guys from the Arctic Joule.. they might be able to help you..
…..or are they still stuck somewhere?
Just in case a link would help you Andy:
http://GreatWhiteCon.info/resources/arctic-sea-ice-images/winter-201617-images/#CAA
Try clicking it for a change. And the next one.
Poor Jimbo, still begging and pleading for someone to visit his CON/SCAM web shite.
Really QUITE PATHETIC.
Link to original page, Jimbo, not to your sewer.
At the risk of repeating myself Andy:
“Try clicking it for a change. And the next one.”
It shows that the central Arctic region started to increase sea ice early, and quickly.
And the whole page, with the NH total at the top shows that..
… there is still one heck of a lot of sea ice in the Arctic.
What on Earth do you expect when there’s open water at 86N?
https://realclimatescience.com/2016/09/mark-serreze-says-sof-could-sail-to-the-north-pole/
I expect you to watch the Arctic sea ice extent INCREASING RAPIDLY.
Mr. Hunt has obviously been reduced to yelling “Look Squirrel”.
As I have often referred to him..
A yapping Chihuahua.
So do I Andy! This from September 3rd:
http://GreatWhiteCon.info/2016/09/the-2016-arctic-sea-ice-metric-minima/#comment-215503
Begging and pleading for someone to visit you in your sewer….
… really reaching the most pitiful of lonesome depths , aren’t you Jimbo.
Autumn in the northern hemisphere.
https://earth.nullschool.net/#current/wind/isobaric/700hPa/overlay=temp/orthographic=-333.02,88.82,298
ICE Formation is exothermic, arctic temps ALWAYS rise with rapid ice. Growth…. such bullshit, no mater what the data says, they always start storytelling and call it science . .it’s embarrassing. .
Where it grows ice.
https://earth.nullschool.net/#current/wind/isobaric/500hPa/overlay=temp/orthographic=-333.02,88.82,298
http://ocean.dmi.dk/anim/plots/icec.arc.1.png
Wait, wait, wait,
This is very interesting.
Send money so we can thoroughly make sure the numbers continue to have you send money.
Besides, there are too many folk, so we need to make sure the surplus population in those very, very hot African areas don’t get electricity and are eliminated!
(so we can have all those toys mama promised us)
All that open water between 80N and 86N that you mentioned previously is quickly gaining a thin skin:
https://realclimatescience.com/2016/09/mark-serreze-says-sof-could-sail-to-the-north-pole/
Meanwhile it is now possible for a small yacht to circumnavigate Banks Island, if the CIS are to be believed.
What do you suppose that means Tony?
Nothing to do with the wind blowing constantly away from the northern shore, hey Jimbo
Maybe you should be the hero you like to make yourself out to be and paddle your surfboard around the island.
And if the wind changes, you can winter in Mercy Bay.
The Russian maps shows it quite a bit tougher, that darker blue is “Nilas” ie surface ice.. have fun on your surfboard, Jimbo you moronic clown
The south wind, forming the narrow polynya along the north shore of Banks Island, also crunches the ice north in Parry Channel. It also looks like gave it gave that ice a good dusting of snow. (If the Russians are right, the thin skim of ice on the polynya is likely also dusted.)
Nothing reflects the sunshine as well as fresh snow. With the days now shorter than the nights, and the days getting even shorter very rapidly, this is the final chance for the “warming sunshine” to effect open waters. But O-Bouy 14 is showing no open waters in Parry Channel.
So you reckon the Russians know Canadian waters better than the Canadians Andy?
Have they hacked RadarSat-2?
Yawn,
The tediously boring Jimbo still hasn’t set off on his trip around Banks.
Better hurry, Jimbo, before the wind changes.
And that blue turns to pink.
It looks quite inviting in actual fact Andy.
Looks like there’s a malfunction in ren’s concentration map?
Off you go, Jimbo.
Have fun over winter when you get stuck in Mercy Bay when the wind changes.
You know Jim if the Northabout folks had a pair they’d turn around and circumnavigate the Arctic west to east. I mean from they mentioned some locals saying winter is starting two months later so they have time to whisk about in their fossil fueled ice fortified runabout. Maybe soros could kick in for a helicopter equipped icebreaker escort. Bellot straight is still ice free for gosh sakes.
And open water absorbs how much sunshine, more than 12 hours a day now? Or is it losing heat?
Total external reflection.
chart.
looks quite inviting in actual fact Andy. Now imagine that said in a British accent? err better yet a Welsh snobby accent?
Well, Jim, if it looks quite inviting in actual fact Then why is it then, that you do not care to live in that place?
ren’s link above shows that prevailing wind
https://earth.nullschool.net/#current/wind/isobaric/700hPa/overlay=temp/orthographic=-333.02,88.82,298
AndyG55, it will be like a storm in November.
http://www.weatherplaza.com/en-US/sat/?region=northwest.ir
Prevailing wind at 3000 meters. Pretty cold, too.
Jim,
How about you explaining to us why the red curve in the figure posted above isn’t below the dark blue one (the one from 4 years ago). Or is that what you’re trying to deflect everyone’s attention from?
Yep, Its slightly more than 1 Wadham above 2012, and about 0.5 Wadham above 2007
It means NOTHING as far as the predicted melt down of Arctic sea ice Mr. Hunt. There is no “death spiral” and one does not appear to be in the offing. Tell you what! I advised you earlier this year to change your blogs subject matter to hurricanes and tropical storms and that is still sound advise. Next hurricane season you would more than likely have something to hyperventilate about because your sea ice “death spiral” is going nowhere.
Actually it’s not my sea ice “death spiral”, it’s Andy Lee Robinson’s. Here it is anyway:
Jim, is your name pronounced using the glottal fricative?
It’s yours and every other person who hypes that meme as you do. The climate, it is a changing, but not the way your thinking it’s going and no BS graphic representation and PR scams are going to be able to hide what is coming. Still not too late. The next couple of hurricane seasons are probably going to be pretty active. I mean after all total
Its now levelled off after the NATURAL drop as the AMO climbed. and indeed, starting to climb.
But the cycle has topped and the trend over the last 10 years is basically ZERO
Now it will start spiralling outwards instead.
And we will enjoy watching you crawl back into the sewer were you come from, Jimbo.
Jim Hansen’s video of Arctic destruction
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=KLk8Uy2-Lsk
If you put a hat on Jim Jones, they look a lot alike. Drink the kookaid. It’s tasty.
Indianna Homer and his climate of DOOM! LOL!
Now he is on his Last Crusade,,,,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ubw5N8iVDHI
The cup of humility
He would need to take his BS and stuff up his rectum to rectify that to be a drop of humility let a lone a cup of it.
He spouts a vocabulary of science fiction as he reads from his teleprompter–good for Hollywood doomsday blockbuster scripts–but not very believable if common sense is applied.
Ice temperature.
http://ocean.dmi.dk/anim/plots/icetemp.arc.1.png
Surface salinity.
http://ocean.dmi.dk/anim/plots/sss.arc.1.png
Can Ice really be forming this fast in the Chukchi Sea, or are they merely seeing what they couldn’t see before?
http://oi63.tinypic.com/24uxlhj.jpg
A look at ren’s WIND chart might give you a hint.
https://earth.nullschool.net/#current/wind/isobaric/700hPa/overlay=temp/orthographic=-334.09,102.02,1858
Also why Jimbo was wetting his nappy about the ice on the north shore of Banks Island.
There is no (significant) ice on the north shore of Banks Island.
You have WIND, Jimbo. stop farting.
Chukchi Sea is a low-salted on the surface, the ice can quickly grow.
Snow falls in Colorado.
It’s not the shortest melt season on record.
As per your claim last year when that was the shortest melt season on record, that wasn’t either.
Any proof this is the fastest growing September ice extent on record? Even if it was, is there any significance?
Andy
You have yet to produce DMI data to show TH is wrong.
NSDIC shows peak 2016 was day 81, not 59 as you said.
So…. Put up or STFU.
Very rapid growth this year
Day 267: 1.2 Wadhams above 2012.
And also now higher than 2007, 2008, 2011 and 2010.
I am not as familiar with the information that you are showing as I might be as I am not a working scientist (Medic) but I would be grateful for any insight into the reality of Man Made Climate Change and the most sober minded evidence, as I am inclined to think that some degree of doom mongering has been at work regarding the public presentation of this arena.