New Video : July 4th Arctic Fake News Update

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  1. Robertv says:

    If this is global warming global cooling must be hell.

    http://cci-reanalyzer.org/wx/DailySummary/#T2_anom

  2. GW says:

    How’s Antarctic sea ice growth so far this season ?

    • AndyG55 says:

      Started low, an a bit late, because of a series of storms..

      ..but the actual growth rate is just the same as always.

      Within a couple of weeks it will catch up with the pack.

  3. gator69 says:

    Some real Independence Day reporting, from SFGATE, and not one mention of CAGW…

    http://www.sfgate.com/news/article/snow-skiing-snowboarding-Squaw-Valley-Fourth-July-11264181.php

  4. Andy says:

    Looks like both North West and Northern passages will be open again this year

    https://seaice.uni-bremen.de/data/amsr2/today/Arctic_AMSR2_visual.png

    It’s soon going to be annual event where people do the whole circumnavigation of the Arctic basin rather than just the NW passage ;)

    :p

    Andy

    • AndyG55 says:

      You mean like in 1944, and in most of the period before the Little Ice Age.

      IGNORANCE of history, is no excuse, child-Andy.

      • Griff says:

        but Andy, the 1944 attempt required the active use of icebreakers…

        bit of a difference when a cruise liner can saoil through clear water, no ice and not need to use any icebreaker assistance?

        and when the same open water, no ice conditions persist each summer for a decade…

        • gator69 says:

          and when the same open water, no ice conditions persist each summer for a decade…

          And nobody dies as a result. Ice melts. Ice is supposed to melt during interglacials, it has happened every time in the past, and it is perfectly normal, unlike you.

          Why do you hate poor brown people Ms Griff?

          • sunsettommy says:

            Griff has been shown this several times now,still ignores it:

            http://notrickszone.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/Arctic-Sea-Ice-Holocene-Stein-17-768×496.jpg

            She is a proven warmist troll.

          • sunsettommy says:

            And this,

            “HISTORICAL REVIEW
            Between 1000 and 1300 average summer temperatures were about 1°C higher
            than today, with the mean annual temperature higher by perhaps 4°C in a
            largely ice-free Arctic. Eric the Red, a renowned world citizen of that time, has
            been much maligned as the first progressive publicity man for giving Greenland
            a false image in order to attract settlers; but in truth, the southwest of that vast
            country was warmer and greener by far than at any time until the Fieldfares
            Turdus pilaris arrived there in the mid-1930s. The sea-temperature of the Atlantic
            was higher than it has been since, and there appears to have been none or very
            little ice to hinder the Vikings’ communications between Iceland, Greenland,
            Newfoundland and Labrador (Mowat 1965). Indeed Brooks (1926) considers that
            the polar ice-cap may have disappeared entirely during the summer months, to
            build anew each winter.”

            http://www.tandfonline.com/doi/pdf/10.1080/00063657509476459

          • sunsettommy says:

            And this,

            “Abstract:
            Cores from site HLY0501-05 on the Alaskan margin in the eastern Chukchi Sea were analyzed for their geochemical (organic carbon,d13 C org,C org/N, and CaCO3) and palynological (dinocyst, pollen, and spores) content to document oceanographic changes during the Holocene. The chronology of the cores was established from 210 Pb dating of near-surface sediments and\14C dating of bivalve shells. The sediments span the last 9000 years, possibly more, but with a gap between the base of the trigger core and top of the piston core. Sedimentation rates are very high (*156 cm/ka), allowing analyses with a decadal to centennial resolution. The data suggest a shift from a dominantly terrigenous to marine input from the early to late Holocene. Dinocyst assemblages are characterized by relatively high concentrations (600–7200 cysts/cm3) and high species diversity, allowing the use of the modern analogue technique for the reconstruction of sea-ice cover, summer temperature, and salinity. Results indicate a decrease in sea-ice cover and a corresponding, albeit much smaller, increase in summer sea-surface temperature over the past 9000 years. Superimposed on these long-term trends are millennial-scale fluctuations characterized by periods of low sea-ice and high sea-surface temperature and salinity that appear quasi-cyclic with a frequency of about one every 2500–3000 years. The results of this study clearly showthat sea-ice cover in the western Arctic Ocean has varied throughout the Holocene. More importantly, there have been times when sea-ice cover was less extensive than at the end of the 20th century.”

            http://research.bpcrc.osu.edu/geo/publications/mckay_etal_CJES_08.pdf

          • sunsettommy says:

            And this,

            “Abstract

            Extensive systems of wave generated beach ridges along the North Greenland coasts show that these areas once saw seasonally open water. In addition to beach ridges, large amounts of striated boulders in and on the marine sediments from the same period also indicate that the ocean was open enough for ice bergs to drift along the shore and drop their loads. Presently the North Greenland coastline is permanently beleaguered by pack ice, and ice bergs are very rare and locked up in the sea ice. Predictions of the rapidly decreasing sea ice in the Arctic Ocean generally point to this area as the last to become ice free in summer. We therefore suggest that the occurrence of wave generated shores and abundant ice berg dropped boulders indicate that the Arctic Ocean was nearly free of sea ice in the summer at the time when they were formed. The beach ridges occur as isostatically raised “staircases”, and C14-dated curves for relative sea level change show that they were formed in the Early Holocene. A large set of samples of molluscs from beach ridges and marine sediments were collected in the summer of 2007, and are presently being dated to give a precise dating of the ice free interval. Preliminary results indicate that it fell within the interval from c. 8.5 to c. 6 ka – being progressively shorter from south to north. We therefore conclude that for a priod in the Early Holocene, probably for a millenium or more, the Arctic Ocean was free of sea ice at least for shorter periods in the summer. This may serve as an analogue to the predicted “greenhouse situation” expected to appear within our century. ”

            http://adsabs.harvard.edu/abs/2007AGUFMPP11A0203F

        • sunsettommy says:

          Griff,

          They didn’t use icebreakers in 1944,why you repeat this lie?

        • AndyG55 says:

          “1944 attempt required the active use of icebreakers…”

          BULLCRAP.

          You are LYING cretin of a TROLL

        • AndyG55 says:

          Why do you CONSTANTLY DENY THE TRUTH

          Current levels of Arctic sea ice are higher than for 90-95% of the last 10,000 years.

          Your moronic yap[ping is getting very tedious.

          But that is your aim isn’t it….

          TEDIOUS, ZERO-KNOWLEDGE TROLLING

          Your whole miserable existence.

          • gator69 says:

            Why, you ask? Because Ms Griff hates poor brown people.

            Why else would she incessantly beat her drum over meaningless ice while millions starve to death?

            What could be more important than innocent human lives? Certainly not meaningless ice, or a political agenda.

            Right, Ms Griff?

        • Rah says:

          Same old lies from Griff. Repeated after they have already been proven to be lies. Name the ice breakers Griff or STFU!

    • AndyG55 says:

      2017 has far more and thicker ice in the NWP than 2012.

      • Griff says:

        you haven’t looked at the satellite photos of the ice breaking up in the passage, or the Canadian Ice Service charts, have you?

        It is going to be open, isn’t it?

        Again?

        • gator69 says:

          How about this photo Ms Griff? Why do you hate these peope?

        • AndyG55 says:

          Off you go, little worm.

          Bet you can’t sail through

          Put up or STFU, you poor child-minded little troll.

        • AndyG55 says:

          You mean like in 1944 and in most of the 90-95% of the Holocene before the LIA, the COLDEST period in 10,00 years.

          Always the moronic comparison to that brutally cold period.. yet I bet you live in a fossil fuel heated inner city ghetto, like most AGW trolls do.

    • tonyheller says:

      Looks like more idiotic prophesy

  5. Griff says:

    A new record low in the ice this year looks extremely likely…

    this chart projects the current situation based on the decrease from this point in previous years:

    http://forum.arctic-sea-ice.net/index.php/topic,119.msg119465.html#msg119465

    “Only 2014 had a small enough decrease from this date onward that a repeat would fail to set a new record; a repetition of the behavior of any and every other year on the record would see a new one”

    • Disillusioned says:

      “A new record low in the ice this year looks extremely likely…”

      How many times have we heard that failed prediction?

      I once believed the boy who cried, “wolf”.

      Disillusionment is a good thing.

      • Griff says:

        Do you wish to disagree with the figures?

        you have the current situation and projections based on the melt progress in recent years…

        • gator69 says:

          I disagree with genocide, which is what you and your fellow alarmists are comitting by diverting assets away from the needy and towards meaningless ice.

          Why do you hate poor brown people Ms Griff?

          • Colorado Wellington says:

            Just think of Ms Griff’s obsessions as driven by fetish arousal and it all starts making sense.

        • Disillusioned says:

          “you have the current situation and projections based on the melt progress in recent years…”

          ROTFLOL! So? What? How many years in a row are you leftists going to repeat this “current situation and projections” nonsense, only to be rebuffed again by Mama Gaia? Year after year, after year after year. You have a mountain of failed projections left in your wake.

          Do you ever get tired of being wrong?

          And, even *if * your “projections” were to come true this year [which would be the very first time since your ilk switched from greenhouse gas based global cooling fearmongering to CO2-based global warming fearmongering], as it did every summer during the Holocene Optimum, it is *floating* sea ice. What’s your concern? It won’t effect sea levels.

          Maybe you should demagogue Antarctica or Greenland some more. At least they have land-based ice.

        • sunsettommy says:

          How about the last 80 years instead,you going to ignore this too Griff?

          “There Has Been No Significant Net Change In Arctic Sea Ice Extent In The Last 80+ Years

          Last week, Edinburgh and Day (2016) used historical monitoring records to conclude that “the [Antarctic sea ice] levels in the early 1900s were in fact similar to today“. Apparently this was a surprising finding for those who assume anthropogenic greenhouse gases largely determine net changes in polar sea ice.

          Perhaps it may also be surprising for those who only focus on the 1979-to-present satellite era to learn that Arctic sea ice has also remained essentially unchanged since the 1930s and 1940s too, and is overall still quite high relative to recent centennial- and millennial-scale historical periods. Even for the last few decades, the trends are not unusual.
          Last week, Edinburgh and Day (2016) used historical monitoring records to conclude that “the [Antarctic sea ice] levels in the early 1900s were in fact similar to today“. Apparently this was a surprising finding for those who assume anthropogenic greenhouse gases largely determine net changes in polar sea ice. Perhaps it may also be surprising for those who only focus on the 1979-to-present satellite era to learn that Arctic sea ice has also remained essentially unchanged since the 1930s and 1940s too, and is overall still quite high relative to recent centennial- and millennial-scale historical periods. Even for the last few decades, the trends are not unusual.”

          http://notrickszone.com/2016/11/28/there-has-been-no-significant-net-change-in-arctic-sea-ice-extent-in-the-last-80-years/#sthash.Aa1FqKJU.dpbs

    • tonyheller says:

      Same failed forecast every year from the same people who profit from lying about climate.

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