Southern Oceans Go Cold

Experts say it is the hottest year ever.

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14 Responses to Southern Oceans Go Cold

  1. Andy says:

    Antarctic sea ice extent is currently far more interesting than the Arctic.

    Why the flip from high extents in 2o15, that had lasted for several years. to percentage wise a lot lower values in the last 3 years?

    I’ve still not seen a good answer for that. Will be interesting to see how it goes along.

    • Gator says:

      I have an answer. Climates always change. So really nothing all that interesting about sea ice.

      Kind of like watching grass grow. Grows in warm weather, dies in the cold. Nothing stunning or interesting about these kind of observations. Sun rises, Sun sets. Repeat.

      What would make an interesting study is why some people obsess over absolutely nothing.

      • Andy says:

        “I have an answer. Climates always change. So really nothing all that interesting about sea ice.”

        As I said, I have not seen a good answer to that, and your comment still means I haven’t.

        Andy

        • Gator says:

          So you are a climate change denier! Got it Andy Andy.

          Please, do keep making ignorant comments, it is so very satisfying. I love redecorating the lonely space between your ears.

    • xenomoly says:

      Polar Seesaw. When the antarctic shrinks the arctic grows. They have a lag – but they generally wax and wane with the AMO and PDO as they go into and out of sync. When the AMO switches to cool mode – which should happen in the next decade or so – we should see the arctic grow considerably again.

      We have only had instrumental precision on this multidecadal system for a gnats fart of time. I think as we observe these currents go in and out of phase – we will see the polar seesaw more clearly.

      It could also have something to do with new eruptions from the volcanoes under the Thwaites glacier. That might be pumping a lot of extra heat into the system.

      • Andy says:

        “Polar Seesaw. When the antarctic shrinks the arctic grows.”

        Both Arctic and Antarctic sea ice extents are shrinking currently.

        Andy

        • Gator says:

          All one has to do to validate one’s argument as to wether or not sea ice is expanding or contracting, is cherrypick your start date. It is a meaningless discussion.

          Ice melts Andy Andy. It always has, and it always will. Why do you care? Is there a demographic that you would like to see starved to death? Starved out of existence? Because that is all you will accomplish with your endless navel gazing.

        • David A says:

          You missed “They have a lag – but they generally wax and wane with the AMO and PDO…”

          Also Arctic ice is actually very flat for over ten years.

        • spike55 says:

          “Both Arctic and Antarctic sea ice extents are shrinking currently.”

          WRONG. !

          Arctic has been steady for at least a decade.

          Antarctic was affected by the large El Nino, and is now back u0p with normal.

        • Gerald Machnee says:

          The Arctic is NOT shrinking, and has not for 10 years.

          • spike55 says:

            Pity its leveled out at such a HIGH extent.

            Way above MWP and all but about 5% of the last 10,000 years.

            The BENEFITS of decreased Arctic sea ice would be enormous. !

    • Jason Calley says:

      Hey Andy! “Why the flip from high extents in 2o15, that had lasted for several years. to percentage wise a lot lower values in the last 3 years?”

      I am sure we all remember the CAGW explanation of why the ice was increasing for so many years around Antarctica. It was, so they said, because “so much ice is melting on Antarctica that the cold fresh water is flowing into the ocean, allowing the sea ice to freeze more easily. The increasing Antarctic sea ice is proof of global warming.”

      OK, according to the CAGW alarmists, increasing Antarctic sea ice is proof of global warming, so decreasing Antarctic sea ice must be proof of _______ (fill in the blank).

      Obviously, the CAGW crowd will answer with “GLOBAL WARMING!”

    • spike55 says:

      “I’ve still not seen a good answer for that.”

      Wilful ignorance only make you appear more of an idiot.

      The drop coincided with the large El Nino which started in 2015.
      There was a current of warm water from that El Nino.

  2. John Farnham says:

    I was reading an online blog about people who had planned to sail the Arctic last winter. It went the way of the dodo due to representations that there was no prediction of an ice free Arctic. Indeed, ice floes in the Pacific ( ! ) were long delayed in disappearing.

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