Cologne sex attacks had been planned, says German justice minister as number of complaints following festivities passes 500
Germany’s justice minister yesterday appeared to confirm fears New Year’s Eve sex attacks and mob violence across Germany was organised.
More than 200 women have now come forward to say they were sexually assaulted during Cologne’s New Year festivities, police revealed yesterday, with the majority of suspects of North African origin.
There have been complaints of assaults by alleged migrants in half a dozen German cities, as well as Austria, Sweden, Finland and Switzerland.
Cologne sex attacks over New Year festivities had been planned by gangs | Daily Mail Online
This couldn’t happen in Texas.
.
Our national leaders are working overtime to bring criminals in to our countries, destabilize our societies, and disarm our citizens.
Only Ten Percent of Migrant Influx Has Reached Us So Far, Says German Minister
Obama Calls for Renewal of Assault Weapons Ban – ABC News
I want Obama to take away your guns – CNN.com
NRA-ILA | New York Times Calls for Gun Confiscation
A patriot must always be ready to defend his country against his government.
-Edward Abbey
Maybe strange question but could she legally carry a big knife ?
https://hamstercorp.files.wordpress.com/2012/01/sakuya_review_08.jpg
Not in Texas. She legally could carry a rifle, shotgun, pistol or switchblade, but not a big knife or club. Go figure.
Maybe a rifle with a big bayonet?
A Tale of Two Cities
Chicago Houston
Population
2.7 million
2.15 million
Median Home Income
$38,600
$37,000
%African-American
38.9%
24%
% Hispanic
29.9%
44%
% Asian
5.5%
6%
% Non-Hispanic White
28.7%
26%
Pretty similar until you compare the following:
Chicago , IL
Houston , TX
Concealed Carry – Legal
No
Yes
# of Gun Stores
None
184 Dedicated gun stores plus 1500 – legal places to buy guns–Wal-Mart, K-mart, sporting goods, etc.
Homicides, 2012
1,806
207
Homicides per 100K
38.4
9.6
Avg. January high temperature (F)
31
63
Conclusion: Cold weather causes murders.
This is due to global warming
“Our national leaders are working overtime to bring criminals in to our countries, destabilize our societies, and disarm our citizens.”
Is there any truth to this, Steven? I mean, do you have any evidence?
Of course there is evidence.
ANOTHER
http://beforeitsnews.com/mediadrop/uploads/2013/38/d404496f1201942a16d88abd53c0e08694c06438.jpg
Gail, please, the term “evidence” in this discussion refers to data that measures something, facts we can check. You have once again posted a long diatribe that expresses opinions that coincide with your own. That’s not evidence. It’s just your opinion restated by voices in your personal echo chamber.
Grow up!
GEE, and I thought Saudi Islam Terrorists flying a plane into the twin towers was EVIDENCE.
I thought Chechan Muslim brothers bombing the Boston Marathon was EVIDENCE!
WHERE does it say ANTHING in the Constitution or our laws that the USA HAS TO ALLOW immigration from countries that wish us ill. And do not forget Turkey is churning out fake passports for the Jhadists.
Wall Street Journal:
Gail, it is evidence of something that we are not talking about. Sorry.
Jan 16, 2013 Here Are The 23 Executive Orders On Gun Safety Signed Today By The President
And now the WHITE HOUSE PRESS SECRETARY say Obama is going to write MORE Exec orders that infringe on our Second Amendment RIGHT. Just so you know a RIGHT is NOT a privilege or favor granted by the government and there for should not be subject to any laws, executive orders or regulations.
Marty,
http://rs566.pbsrc.com/albums/ss109/atheistdave/headupass.jpg
Get a life!
‘Our national leaders are working overtime to bring criminals in to our countries…’
This one you certainly can’t deny. I’d say not securing our border, for decades, allowing in 15 million or so criminals (which every single one is, the second they cross the border illegally), certainly confirms the first part of the sentence. And, no it’s not just since. Obama.
And if you believe that didn’t de-stabilze our society economically, you are a fool.
A group of four people attempted to break into a home in San Antonio, Texas by removing an air conditioning unit from a window and crawling inside. The homeowner responded to the break-in by retrieving a gun and firing at the intruders, striking and killing one, and causing the others to flee. A knife and a bag, containing a gun and burglary tools, was found next to the body of the deceased intruder.
Police captured the three intruders who fled the gunfire a short distance from the home. (KSAT, San Antonio, Texas 11/15/15)
https://www.nraila.org/articles/20151117/homeowner-fights-off-four-intruders-ksat-san-antonio-texas-111515
Poor bad guys. After waiting for a background check and carefully planning a safe home invasion, some “homeowner” ruined their day with another act of workplace violence.
Steven says our national leaders want to disarm those criminals. I don’t see any evidence of that. Do you?
More lies from Marty.
Gator, what is this moron talking about?
God only knows. The only thing we know for sure is that Marty is lying.
Gail, have any of the President’s executive actions been meant to bring criminals into our country, destabilize our societies,or disarm our citizens? If you say yes, you have to provide some factual evidence to support your belief. Otherwise, it is what it appears to be: hogwash.
Fact, the FBI says we cannot distingish Islamists from peacefull Muslims.
FACT, THE O says import them anyway.
Fact, the MB is a terrorist organization active in 90 nations, intent on destroying the US from within. ( study the holy land foundation)
Fact, the O supports the M.B.
Do I have to accept your statements as facts because you state them as facts, or will you prove them? Or at least support them with some real facts?
Discover the Networks
Now go read.
So you admit you can’t support your assertions.
“….meant to bring criminals into our country, destabilize our societies”
>>>>>>>>>
For others since Marty is congenitally immune to any facts that do not fit his world view.
First on destabilizing our society.
Dick Lamm, the former Governor of Colorado (Democrat) had this warning. It should sound very familiar to those who do not hate the USA.
Gail, please stop spamming long texts that have nothing to do with the subject.
Whoosh, right over his head.
Gail, Martin really cannot begin real research. He does not know what the MB is, their relationship and objectives to Obama, the holy land foundation, the FBI assertions on our incapacity to vet imigrants from Islamic nations, the difference between Bush objectives and results in Iraq, Obama’s role in the Arab spring, the disparate roles of both democrats and republicans in the financial collapse, the political agenda of CAGW science, etc.
David if Martin could actually comprehend he wouldn’t be here spouting stupid stuff and asking for “evidence” that is already practically at the tip of his nose.
All the “evidence” one needs has been compiled LONG before the most recent actions and statements of this president and his parties goal of getting around the 2nd amendment by any and all actions they can possibly get away with. So here is all the “evidence” needed as read in the context of the presidents statements and actions concerning the RIGHT OF THE PEOPLE TO BEAR ARMS:
A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed. – See more at: http://constitution.findlaw.com/amendment2.html#sthash.eVxkU4fm.dpuf
RAH, Steven says our national leaders want to disarm you. I don’t see any evidence of that. Do you? If so, what is the evidence that our national leaders want to disarm you?
RAH,
Notice that Marty, as usual, is ignoring ALL the evidence that has been presented on this thread and keeps repeating his inane question.
This is an example of Alinsky’s Rules for Radicals
RULE 8: “Keep the pressure on. Never let up.”
Attack, attack, attack from all sides, never giving the reeling opposition a chance to rest, regroup, recover and re-strategize.
Marty is not very good at it though.
When you write “Our national leaders,” I assume you mean President Obama. What reasons would he have to want to destabilize our societies?
How many societies do we have in America? I have been thinking there is just one.
“How many societies do we have in America? I have been thinking there is just one.”
That just shows that you’re not good at thinking
Humanity has divided itself into multiple layers & is obsessed by tribalism
I see your point. And Steven is saying our national leaders want to reduce tribalism?
No, encourage it.
“It is obvious why the morality of altruism is a tribal phenomenon. Prehistorical men were physically unable to survive without clinging to a tribe for leadership and protection against other tribes. The cause of altruism’s perpetuation into civilized eras is not physical, but psycho-epistemological: the men of self-arrested, perceptual mentality are unable to survive without tribal leadership and “protection” against reality. The doctrine of self-sacrifice does not offend them: they have no sense of self or of personal value—they do not know what it is that they are asked to sacrifice—they have no firsthand inkling of such things as intellectual integrity, love of truth, personally chosen values, or a passionate dedication to an idea. When they hear injunctions against “selfishness,” they believe that what they must renounce is the brute, mindless whim-worship of a tribal lone wolf. But their leaders—the theoreticians of altruism—know better. Immanuel Kant knew it; John Dewey knew it; B. F. Skinner knows it; John Rawls knows it. Observe that it is not the mindless brute, but reason, intelligence, ability, merit, self-confidence, self-esteem that they are out to destroy.
Today, we are seeing a ghastly spectacle: a magnificent scientific civilization dominated by the morality of prehistorical savagery.”
“Selfishness Without a Self,”
Philosophy: Who Needs It, 50
Ayn Rand
[youtube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gjVhya-A2Y0&w=640&h=360%5D
Martin, society is composed of individuals, and individuals of a feather flock together, thus there are dozens of disparate cultural groups in every large modern culture. Whites are told often they cannot relate to the black culture, etc.
Some US “groups” hate the US. The Os wife could think of NOTHING this nation has EVER done, of which she was proud, unitl the election of the O.
The US was founded on principals of individual freedom and responsibility. It is the Os objective to fundamentally change that. (He said so) There are political schools of radical thought on how to destablize a society. Obama incorporates these tactics. Books have been written about this.
>The US was founded on principals of individual freedom and responsibility. It is the Os
>objective to fundamentally change that. (He said so)
I missed that. Do you have a source with the actual quote? Why would he (or anyone) want to change that? I think you are imagining things.
>There are political schools of radical thought on how to destablize a society. Obama
>incorporates these tactics. Books have been written about this.
You have to provide some evidence to support your radical claims. Otherwise, it is what it appears to be: Absolute Horseshit. I haven’t seen any evidence that supports your claims. I am certainly disappointed with President Obama. He continued the same economic policies as George W. Bush, which were a complete disaster. And he simply gave away the Public Option in the health care bill. He has moved so far to the right as to be indistinguishable from a Reagan era Republican.
But without evidence, your statements about him are absolute horseshit.
“Do you have a source with the actual quote?”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ssdh4ARNg8
http://www.nationalreview.com/article/359967/obama-transforming-america-victor-davis-hanson
H/t to Gail for helping me understand why you can’t see reality: http://s566.photobucket.com/user/atheistdave/media/headupass.jpg.html
That’s a wonderful quote, RealOld. Now I see what you mean. By “destabilize our societies” you mean make changes. You mean that any change at all is an attempt to “destabilize our societies.”
Yours is an astonishingly dumb philosophy, RealOld.
The problematic key word is “fundamental” based on foundational.
The US foundation is not the errors of human flaws which infect all people.
An individual can want to correct errors of evil, or unfair labor, or monoplies, etc but to transform fundamentally is an entirely different proposition.
What the meant by this is well supported by his actions, enviromental education, and associates, as well as his wife’s statements, associates and actions.
Your reply was gibberish, David.
Martin, I cannot help your lack of research or bias.
President Obama is not trying to destabilize American society. Nor is he trying to take away the right to own and use guns. Your accusations are as dumb as they are unsupported, which is to say: completely.
More Marty lies…
President Obama is not trying to destabilize American society. Nor is he trying to take away the right to own and use guns.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ymNMm1YXrzw
Obama said he wants a Fundamental Transformation of America. Marty doesn’t understand what that means. So here are the definitions of the words.
FUNDAMENTAL
TRANSFORMATION
In business
This is why Obama ignores the Constitution with such frequency. He is busy ‘transforming’ the Constitution the foundation of our country.
“Yours is an astonishingly dumb philosophy, RealOld”
Yours is an astonishingly inane reply Martin, because I expressed no philosophy of mine.
I merely linked you to an 8 sec clip of Obama’s own words & an article documenting what fundamental transformations he has done.
I imagine I should have given you a copy of the NYTimes or the HuffandPuffington Post and then you would have been comforted that I have the same philosophy as you do. Sorry that I caused you so much cognitive dissonance.
I said nothing about guns, although you are wrong there as well.
Regardless of dark motive, (of which there is ample evidence,) he is destablising and fundamentally / foundationally transforming America.
Your ignorant post is well stocked in arrogance. Read to the bottom the recent post here on socialism. Study Saul Alinsky, Go to school by reading “Blue Planet in Green Shackles”
Go to “Discover the Networks” to learn about the difference between Bush and Obama. ( Neither properly represented US founding principals, but one wanted to build, while the other, full of angst, has only torn down.)
The O has created greater debt, government central control of capitol, including future capitol, then ever, and by a lot. He has created greater black poverty and international disasters, then any predecessors, and may well land us in W.W.
David, are you replying to me? I can’t tell. It looks like you are replying to Steven.
For the record, I know all about socialism. I’m an American, but I have lived in Norway for many years. Do you claim Norway is socialist? It isn’t. But Norway does use collectivism effectively and efficiently.
Define the difference between collectivism and socialism.
Socialism: a political and economic theory of social organization which advocates that the means of production, distribution, and exchange should be owned or regulated by the community as a whole.
Collectivism: the practice or principle of giving a group priority over each individual in it.
For example, a private insurance company collects premiums and pays out benefits based on collectivism, but it is not socialist, since it is not owned by the people who pay the premiums.
In socialism is the government a group? Do socialistic policies take priority over individual choice?
Are you saying every individual in collectivism has the choice to participate or not?
“In socialism is the government a group?”
It can be, when the government is the people. In Norway, for example, the government owns the North Sea oil. That means the people own it. That is socialist.
“Do socialistic policies take priority over individual choice?”
Democracy is required to implement socialism. So, to the extent that democracy can restrict individual choice, a socialist policy can take precedence. For example, the US social security system is a socialist system. You don’t have a choice about paying into it.
“Are you saying every individual in collectivism has the choice to participate or not?”
That depends on whether we are talking about a state socialist system or a private one. The US social security system is a state socialist system. You are required to participate. A kibbutz in Israel is a private socialist system. You can join, if they want a new member, and you can drop out if you don’t like it.
So in “collectivism” you have a choice to participate in this distribution of production, in state socialism you do not?
Is there such a thing as state collectivism?
My statement is clear, David. You have to pay into Social Security. You don’t have to stay on a kibbutz. You have to pay into Medicare. You don’t have to join REI.
Socialism is collectivist, so Social Security and Medicare are collectivist.
Ah, thank you, so if they use force, they are the same thing. I knew you could get there.
My knowledge of the natures of socialism, collectivism, and capitalism is the same as it was when you started asking questions to avoid admitting you are wrong. Now that you, too, understand, I hope you won’t make the same stupid claims about socialism and collectivism next time. Thank you for playing your role in the discussion.
Yes, socialism and collectivism, synonyms for group power over others, enpowering the dark side of human nature, except when entered into voluntarily, such as in private non mandated insurance.
What prior claims did I make?
I simply asked questions until you admitted they were the same thing if govermental.
Martin says, “But Norway does use collectivism effectively and efficiently.”
No it does not.
“When liberals point to the per-capita GDP of Norway, (lower then the US by the way) they forget to mention that much of this is a result of big oil interests. Norway is the largest oil producer and exporter in all of Western Europe. Norway produces roughly 200 barrels of oil per person per year. That puts it at number 5 in the world for per capita oil production.” Those big oil world polluting SOBs
Here are some links to help you understand why some Scandinavian nations do ok despite socialism. As soon as their immigrant population reaches the level of US they tend to fall apart rapidly.
http://www.coyoteblog.com/coyote_blog/2005/04/the_scandinavia.html
http://www.forskningsradet.no/en/Newsarticle/Norwegian_welfare_system_facing_major_challenges/1253967894814?lang=en
http://frontpagemag.com/2011/steven-plaut/does-scandinavian-socialism-work/
http://theuklibertarian.com/2010/06/22/the-myth-of-scandinavian-socialism/ (more links inside)
http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2012/11/a_toast_to_socialist_countries.html
http://www.americanthinker.com/2012/07/the_norwegian_miracle.html
http://mises.org/daily/4655
But Norway does use collectivism effectively and efficiently….
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Norway Teaches Migrant Men Not To Rape
Norway deports record number of immigrants in 2015
Norway launches facebook page to deter migrants
Norway, rape rates are climbing
Norway, once thought immune to turmoil elsewhere in Europe, admits that parts of its capital, Oslo, are in effect no-go zones
etc etc
This is what the Fathers and Brothers need to eliminate the rape by immigrant problem in the EU link or link
Gail…..I thought this one said it all
Norway Teaches Migrant Men Not To Rape
Also, the Barnevernet arm of the Norwegian collective very efficiently took away children of foreign families:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3038084/Norway-taking-foreign-children-away-parents-highest-rates-inbreeding-world-Country-forced-deny-claims-Lithuanian-child-taken-care.html
http://www.thelocal.no/20150413/norway-child-agency-seizes-children-to-combat-inbreeding
BTW Martin, tell us what role Bush played in the 06 housing collapse, and what role the democrats, controlling the Senate finance committe, played, and what role Obama played. Let us see if you have one objective bone in your body.
It was 2007, David. Bush’s role in that collapse was his wasting of trillions on two wars rather than spending that money at home.
Ok, I see your studied answer to Bush’s role. ( Steve Case, I need a label) Now for the democratic role, and the Os role?
Your 11:43 post as well. Certainly you can follow a simple time line.
David, it’s clear Martin Smith doesn’t know how to find his own time-stamped comment on this page. You are just being hard on him by repeatedly demanding that he does that. Martin deserves a space where he can feels safe.
… can feel
ssafe.We’re done, David. You are just being an obstacle.
Colorado, my apologies, clearly simple expectations cause stress on today’s youth. From Martin’s childish comments I assume him to be a college student.
David and Colorado: I certainly CAN find the message David complained about, but why should I jump through hoops for either of you? If neither of you is willing to follow the standard protocol for threaded discussions, then you are giving the appearance that you know your argument is wrong and you don’t want to call attention to it. I’m happy with that result.
You can whine about it and exhort me to find the message all you want. I am happy with this result. Thank you.
Colorado and David: I thank you for your concern for my well-being, but it is misplaced. I am living a good and productive life. I wish the same for you someday. Please put your alleged minds at rest. You can not threaten me.
What threat?
“What threat?”
Exactly. How childish.
So nobody threatened you, but you feel threatened, or, I get it, you are so emotionally attached to your biases, nothing can threaten them, and any attempt to broaden your limited perspective is a threat you feel confident your ignorance is impervious to. I must agree.
How about those fossil fuel CO2 profitering Norwegians? More seriousely, did you read the links in those comments?
Ok, I see your studied answer to Bush’s role. ( Steve Case, I need a label) Now for the democratic role, and the Os role???
Obama’s role was to continue the economic policies of Bush. He should have reversed them as Paul Krugman advised.
Obama was not the president.
You lost me.
Wasn’t much.
Historical Debt Outstanding – Annual 2000 – 2015
Includes legal tender notes, gold and silver certificates, etc
BUSH: 09/30/2004 ……… 7,379,052,696,330.32
Obama: 09/30/2015 ……… 18,150,604,277,750.63
https://www.treasurydirect.gov/govt/reports/pd/histdebt/histdebt_histo5.htm
OBummer has more that DOUBLED the debt during his tenure and it is not even over..
and they are absolutely determined….
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/01/11/easy-mortgages-for-high-risk-immigrants-what-could-go-wrong/
“They say the definition of insanity is repeating the same action, and expecting a different result. By that measure, Obama and Congress has lost their minds.
Question Gail. Does that $18.15 Trillion include the +$4 Trillion quantitative loans by the Fed? I know the banks are supposed to own the Fed and they are not?? government, but I don’t see them taking a loss on that loan. Makes the debt a lot closer to $22.14 T.
DD More says:
January 12, 2016 at 4:09 am
Question Gail. Does that $18.15 Trillion include the +$4 Trillion quantitative loans by the Fed?
Checkout these:
http://www.heritage.org/research/reports/2014/08/quantitative-easing-the-feds-balance-sheet-and-central-bank-insolvency
And QE explained
http://www.economist.com/blogs/economist-explains/2015/03/economist-explains-5
Yes, Gail, the debt has increased much more under Obama. But almost all of that increase was fated by the policies and wars initiated by George W. Bush. The USA would not be in the debt situation it is in now were it not for George W. Bush starting two wars that continue to this day. Even with the collapse of the economy, we would not have run up so much debt were it not for the chicken hawks of the Bush administration.
George W. Bush starting two wars
Marty lies again…
A declaration of war is a formal declaration issued by a national government indicating that a state of war exists between that nation and another. The document Declarations of War and Authorizations for the Use of Military Force: Historical Background and Legal Implications gives an extensive listing and summary of statutes which are automatically engaged upon the US declaring war.
For the United States, Article One, Section Eight of the Constitution says “Congress shall have power to … declare War”. However, that passage provides no specific format for what form legislation must have in order to be considered a “declaration of war” nor does the Constitution itself use this term. Many[who?] have postulated “Declaration(s) of War” must contain that phrase as or within the title. Others oppose that reasoning. In the courts, the United States Court of Appeals for the First Circuit, in Doe v. Bush, said: “[T]he text of the October Resolution itself spells out justifications for a war and frames itself as an ‘authorization’ of such a war.”[1] in effect saying an authorization suffices for declaration and what some may view as a formal Congressional “Declaration of War” was not required by the Constitution.
This article will use the term “formal declaration of war” to mean Congressional legislation that uses the phrase “declaration of war” in the title. Elsewhere, this article will use the terms “authorized by Congress”, “funded by Congress” or “undeclared war” to describe other such conflicts.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Declaration_of_war_by_the_United_States#Military_engagements_authorized_by_Congress
M.S, once again demonstrating he does not study issues.
David, you just make yourself look foolish, when you attack me personally instead of attacking my argument. George W. Bush started two wars that were both unnecessary. They have cost us and the world trillions of dollars, which continues. You simply can not dispute this. That money could have been spent on improving civilization, especially at home, but instead, we spent it all on destruction, which, again, continues.
… George W. Bush started two wars…
Marty lies again…
A declaration of war is a formal declaration issued by a national government indicating that a state of war exists between that nation and another. The document Declarations of War and Authorizations for the Use of Military Force: Historical Background and Legal Implications gives an extensive listing and summary of statutes which are automatically engaged upon the US declaring war.
For the United States, Article One, Section Eight of the Constitution says “Congress shall have power to … declare War”. However, that passage provides no specific format for what form legislation must have in order to be considered a “declaration of war” nor does the Constitution itself use this term. Many[who?] have postulated “Declaration(s) of War” must contain that phrase as or within the title. Others oppose that reasoning. In the courts, the United States Court of Appeals for the First Circuit, in Doe v. Bush, said: “[T]he text of the October Resolution itself spells out justifications for a war and frames itself as an ‘authorization’ of such a war.”[1] in effect saying an authorization suffices for declaration and what some may view as a formal Congressional “Declaration of War” was not required by the Constitution.
This article will use the term “formal declaration of war” to mean Congressional legislation that uses the phrase “declaration of war” in the title. Elsewhere, this article will use the terms “authorized by Congress”, “funded by Congress” or “undeclared war” to describe other such conflicts.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Declaration_of_war_by_the_United_States#Military_engagements_authorized_by_Congress
Actually MS, you ignore all contrary evidence, complain when Gail makes a long detailed and cogent message with quotes and link, ignoring content entirely, ignore my references to detailed academic discussions well refuting your political sound bites, ignore many other posters here and their linked responses to your ramblings, and ignore links to many peer reviewed publications disputing CAGW.
You then whine when others cannot resist mocking your willful blindness, while you engage in similar, albeit inaccurate insults.
“Actually MS, you ignore all contrary evidence, complain when Gail makes a long detailed and cogent message with quotes and link, ignoring content entirely, ignore my references to detailed academic discussions well refuting your political sound bites, ignore many other posters here and their linked responses to your ramblings, and ignore links to many peer reviewed publications disputing CAGW.”
David, Gail makes long, detailed messages, but they are never cogent. Her replies never address the subject. Her replies are always about something else. She does that deliberately. It is psychopathic. She must always avoid direct confrontation because she knows subconsciously she can’t win.
You didn’t provide any references to detailed academic discussions refuting anything. Look, I’m not like you and gator and Colorado. I don’t subscribe to receive all the replies to my posts here. I have a professional life and a social life that require most of my time, so I don’t even see most of your replies. In this case, I went back and found your links because I saw the reply in which you asked me about them. But please don’t think I am hiding from you if you don’t get a reply from me to one of your posts. If I don’t reply, it just means I didn’t see your message at all. That’s what happened in this case, and I would not have seen your links if you hadn’t told me about them in a message of yours that I did see.
But I have addressed them now, and they are all wrong, except for the one I talked about.
“You then whine when others cannot resist mocking your willful blindness, while you engage in similar, albeit inaccurate insults.”
Don’t misunderstand. I don’t mind your mocking, David. I don’t mind Colorado’s mocking, d=gator’s mocking, Gail’s mocking. I don’t mind because whenever one of you resorts to mocking me, I win.
I don’t mind Colorado’s mocking, d=gator’s mocking…
Gator mocks liars and stupid people. Can you figure out which you are? 😆
David A says:
“Actually MS, you ignore all contrary evidence, complain when Gail makes…”
>>>>>>>>>>>>
What Marty does is show he is not interested in debate but in applying Alinsky’s Rules for Radicals
RULE 2: “Never go outside the expertise of your people.”
This is why Marty (and other socialists) can not be debated with. They will ALWAYS ignore anything that goes outside their very limited knowledge which is based on focused propaganda. It is why Democrat voters show little to no broad knowledge to the point it is comical.
RULE 12: “Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it.” Cut off the support network and isolate the target from sympathy. Go after people; people hurt.
We have certainly seen this rule applied to many scientists recently and it is what Marty is ineptly trying to apply to me.
His goal is
RULE 10: “If you push a negative hard enough, it will push through and become a positive.” Violence from the other side can win the public to your side because the public sympathizes with the underdog.
He is trying to get an angry response from me by continually saying I am off topic or spamming long texts or what ever because he KNOWS I am knowledgeable and could sway the larger audience. Therefore I and Gator who is also very knowledgeable have to be neutralized.
Gail, once again, your Alinsky response has nothing whatsoever to do with the subject of this thread.
“So nobody threatened you, but you feel threatened, or, I get it, you are so emotionally attached to your biases, nothing can threaten them, and any attempt to broaden your limited perspective is a threat you feel confident your ignorance is impervious to. I must agree.”
What are you talking about, David? why should I feel threatened by you or Colorado? I don’t feel threatened by anyone here. Why would you think that?
“How about those fossil fuel CO2 profitering Norwegians? More seriousely, did you read the links in those comments?”
First, Norway doesn’t spend its oil money. Or, very little of it anyway. In fact, historically, Norway has used some of its oil money to buy US treasuries, so, assuming you are in America, you have been living off Norwegian oil money more than Norwegians.
Second, I just found the links I think you are referring to. There is no truth in what any of them say about Norway, except for this one: http://www.forskningsradet.no/en/Newsarticle/Norwegian_welfare_system_facing_major_challenges/1253967894814?lang=en
The Norwegian welfare system does face challenges. It always has faced challenges. That’s the point, David. Norway always faces these challenges. In the case of the Norwegian welfare system, it is supported by taxes. All our social services are supported by taxes. My own income tax rate is about 36%. With the VAT I pay on goods and services, my total tax rate is about 50%.
I’m happy with that. Well, happy isn’t the right word. What I mean is that I believe I get good value from those taxes. I am quite certain that pretty much all Norwegians feel similarly about the tax system here.
But there is nothing new about tax funded systems being a challenge. That has always been true. The difference in the scandinavian countries is this: They meet the challenges.
America used to meet the challenges, but now America is letting its social systems and its infrastructure degrade. When will America meet these same challenges, David? Well, first we have to stop wasting money on wars, yes?
So in seconds you read 50 plus pages of links and found them all lies. As stated, you do not research.
You are the one that felt the need to assert that “we” could not threaten you.
I’ve seen them all before, David. I don’t need to see them again.
David, you didn’t address the argument. Do you plan to address it, or are we done?
Norway spends about 5 percent of its oil revenue today, the rest is earmarked for state pensions, our S.S., which costs the US a large percentage of individual and corporate tax, so yes this savings is large and spent. So without oil, every Norwegian would be about 170,000 dollars poorer.
Prior to the 1960s oil boom Norway was a relaively poor Scandanavian nation, much worse off then Sweden as an example.
Sweeden, bty, was the fastes geroei,g European economy before they went to socialism. Socialism works just ok in a homogenous culture where a work ethic and morality is established, but is ever in danger of degenerating into tyranny. History is the verification of this.
Martin, you failed to address the arguements, simply dismissing them, as per usual.
There aren’t any earmarks, David. The money is invested. All of the money is “earmarked” in the sense that Norway will use the investments to support its social programs and infrastructure, but AFTER the oil runs out.
“So without oil, every Norwegian would be about 170,000 dollars poorer.” True, but Norwegians don’t get to spend that money. The state has invested it on their behalf. The US could have done the same thing with its resources, but it chose instead to give them away for next to nothing, and the result is crumbling infrastructure and social systems.
“Sweeden, bty, was the fastes geroei,g European economy before they went to socialism. Socialism works just ok in a homogenous culture where a work ethic and morality is established, but is ever in danger of degenerating into tyranny. History is the verification of this.”
Sweden never “went to socialism.” Sweden, Norway, Finland, Denmark, Iceland are not socialist countries. they are capitalist countries. They use social democracy to advantage, which means they choose to collect higher taxes and use the revenues to implement collectivist systems for health insurance, education, transportation, pensions, child welfare, and unemployment.
Nor are the Scandinavian countries “homogenous.” They have always been heterogeneous, as are all European countries. I suppose you are trying to express racism without sounding racist, but be advised Norway in particular takes in many more refugees per capita than the US.
No, you are wrong. None of the scandinavian countries is socialist and none of them is in danger of descending into tyranny. Your ignorance of this part of the world is simply astonishing.
“Martin, you failed to address the arguements, simply dismissing them, as per usual.”
David, I don’t have time for this. If you want me to address an argument, state the argument, and if I see your reply, I will address the argument. In fact, wherever you see a comment from me, if you want me to address an argument, state the argument you want me to address and I will do my best to address it.
But be advised, the Norwegian social systems are ALWAYS challenged, because that is the nature of social systems funded by taxes. However, Norway accepts the challenges and deals with them. It has always been that way in Norway, and it will always be that way.
The point is, you seem to think that when a system is challenged, it means the system has failed. This is simply wrong. Take your car, for example. It is always challenged. Sometimes it runs low on fuel; sometimes it runs low on oil; sometimes the transmission fails, or a tire blows out. You always meet these challenges, yes? When your car breaks down, you don’t just leave it by the side of the road. You fix the problem and drive on. So it is with Norwegian social systems. They always need tuning; they always need care. Norway takes care of these responsibilities the same way you take care of your car.
Norway is about90 percent ethnic Norwegian. The US immigration, including Hispanic legal and illegal, is far higher, and US cultural is far more an intergration of the world then Norway or Sweden. The current Scandanavian and EU problem with a non Scandanavian immigration is rapidly mamifesting.
There are thousands of PhD political scientist that claim nations like Sweeden to be socialist. I am we aware of the compromise with the need for Capitalism, and pleased you recognise the primary role this engenders in their economic success.
I clearly explained how sans their oil production Norway would be required to raise all their taxes by at least ten percent to fund their pensions. I am correct.
“Norway is about90 percent ethnic Norwegian. The US immigration, including Hispanic legal and illegal, is far higher, and US cultural is far more an intergration of the world then Norway or Sweden. The current Scandanavian and EU problem with a non Scandanavian immigration is rapidly mamifesting.”
You are good at restating your opinion, David, but it is just your opinion. But now your opinion is becoming racist, so I will no longer respond to it.
“There are thousands of PhD political scientist that claim nations like Sweeden to be socialist. I am we aware of the compromise with the need for Capitalism, and pleased you recognise the primary role this engenders in their economic success.”
No, David. Sweden is capitalist. Here is the description of Sweden’s economy from the CIA Fact Book: “Aided by peace and neutrality for the whole of the 20th century, Sweden has achieved an enviable standard of living under a mixed system of high-tech capitalism and extensive welfare benefits. Sweden remains outside the Eurozone because of concerns over its impact on the country’s economy, welfare system, and sovereignty. Timber, hydropower, and iron ore constitute the resource base of an economy heavily oriented toward foreign trade. Privately owned firms account for vast majority of industrial output. Agriculture accounts for less than 1% of GDP. Economic growth slowed in 2013, as a result of continued economic weakness in the EU – Sweden’s main export market; however, Sweden’s economy experienced modest growth in 2014, with an adjusted real GDP growth that averaged 2.1%. Sweden’s economy is expected to grow modestly in 2015, although the country continues to struggle with deflationary pressure.”
“I clearly explained how sans their oil production Norway would be required to raise all their taxes by at least ten percent to fund their pensions.”
You clearly explained it, yes, but your explanation was false.
I made no racist comments whatever. I, very briefly, describe the much greater US ethnic diversity, and the challenges it presents. (explain what you think I said was racist)
Google US ethnic demographics and The same for Norway. I am also correct about the use of oil funds.
“I made no racist comments whatever. I, very briefly, describe the much greater US ethnic diversity, and the challenges it presents. (explain what you think I said was racist)”
Ethnic diversity has nothing to do with single-payer health insurance. In Norway, everyone pays taxes, regardless of ethnicity. There are ethnic differences in Norway, even among what you call ethnic Norwegians. There are eastern Norwegians and western Norwegians, who speak different languages. There are the Sami, who speak a third language. And there are Russians, Germans, Swedes, Danes, French, Spanish, and many different Africans. The point is they all pay taxes. Their ethnicity has nothing to do with that, so you can’t claim that Norwegian social systems work because there is less ethnicity in Norway. Even if we assume for the sake of this argument that Norway has less ethnic diversity… Do you see how silly your claim is? You are claiming single-payer health insurance works in Norway because Norway has less ethnic diversity. How does ethnic diversity make single-payer health insurance impossible in America? …unless you mean that people who are ethnically different from you don’t pay taxes. Is that what you mean? Because that IS racist.
Or go ahead and explain how Norway’s alleged lack of ethnic diversity makes its social systems work. Go ahead and explain what it is about Norwegian ethnic uniformity that makes its welfare system work.
“I am also correct about the use of oil funds.”
No, you are not. “Norway predicts it will for the first time need to withdraw cash from its $820 billion sovereign wealth fund as western Europe’s biggest oil exporter uses a record chunk of its petroleum revenue to cover budget holes and stimulate the economy.”
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-10-06/norway-budget-proposes-boosting-oil-spending-by-14-nrk-says
Do not forget Clinton’s fingerprints all over the 2008 foreclosure mess: <a Clinton and the five banking laws that set-up the financial mess and ‘Too big to fail Banks.’
Clinton appointed Lynch to the U.S. Attorney’s office in the Eastern District of New York straight from law firm Cahill, Gordon & Reindel — “the go-to law firm for New York’s financial crooks.”
Lordy you can’t make this stuff up! A publisher of fiction would say it was too unbelievable!
These are the critical five new banking laws Clinton signed.
BANKING LAWS:
The McFadden Act of 1927 or Amendment to the National Banking Laws and the Federal Reserve Act (P.L. 69-639, 44 STAT. 1224): Prohibited interstate banking.
Law: Negating above:
Riegle-Neal Interstate Banking and Branching Efficiency Act of 1994 (P.L. 103-328, 108 STAT. 2338).
Permits bank holding companies to acquire banks in any state one year Beginning June 1, 1997, allows interstate mergers.
The Glass-Steagall Act or Banking Act of 1933 (P.L. 73-66, 48 STAT. 162): Separated commercial banking from investment banking, establishing them as separate lines of commerce.
Bank Holding Company Act of 1956 (P.L. 84-511, 70 STAT. 133): Prohibited bank holding companies headquartered in one state from acquiring a bank in another state.
Law: Negating both of the above laws:
Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act of 1999 (P.L. 106-102, 113 STAT 1338)
Repeals last vestiges of the Glass Steagall Act of 1933. Modifies portions of the Bank Holding Company Act to allow affiliations between banks and insurance underwriters. Law creates a new financial holding company authorized to engage in: underwriting and selling insurance and securities, conducting both commercial and merchant banking, investing in and developing real estate and other “complimentary activities.”
Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation Improvement Act of 1991 (P.L. 102-242, 105 STAT. 2236).
Also known as FDICIA. FDICIA [b]greatly increased the powers and authority of the FDIC. Major provisions recapitalized the Bank Insurance Fund and [b]allowed the FDIC to strengthen the fund by borrowing from the Treasury.
Housing and Community Development Act of 1992 (P.L. 102-550, 106 STAT. 3672).
RTC Completion Act[/b] (P.L. 103-204, 107 STAT. 2369):
implement provisions designed to improve the agency’s record in providing business opportunities to minorities and women.. Expands the existing affordable housing programs of the RTC and the FDIC by broadening the potential affordable housing stock of the two agencies.
Increases the statute of limitations on RTC civil lawsuits. In cases in which the statute of limitations has expired, claims can be revived for fraud and intentional misconduct resulting in unjust enrichment or substantial loss to the thrift.
https://www.fdic.gov/regulations/laws/important/index.html
For many years the President and his Administration have not only warned of the systemic consequences of financial turmoil at a housing government-sponsored enterprise (GSE) but also put forward thoughtful plans to reduce the risk that either Fannie Mae or Freddie Mac would encounter such difficulties. President Bush publicly called for GSE reform 17 times in 2008 alone before Congress acted. Unfortunately, these warnings went unheeded, as the President’s repeated attempts to reform the supervision of these entities were thwarted by the legislative maneuvering of those who emphatically denied there were problems.
2001
April: The Administration’s FY02 budget declares that the size of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac is “a potential problem,” because “financial trouble of a large GSE could cause strong repercussions in financial markets, affecting Federally insured entities and economic activity.”
2002
May: The President calls for the disclosure and corporate governance principles contained in his 10-point plan for corporate responsibility to apply to Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. (OMB Prompt Letter to OFHEO, 5/29/02)
2003
January: Freddie Mac announces it has to restate financial results for the previous three years.
February: The Office of Federal Housing Enterprise Oversight (OFHEO) releases a report explaining that “although investors perceive an implicit Federal guarantee of [GSE] obligations,” “the government has provided no explicit legal backing for them.” As a consequence, unexpected problems at a GSE could immediately spread into financial sectors beyond the housing market. (“Systemic Risk: Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac and the Role of OFHEO,” OFHEO Report, 2/4/03).
September: Fannie Mae discloses SEC investigation and acknowledges OFHEO’s review found earnings manipulations.
September: Treasury Secretary John Snow testifies before the House Financial Services Committee to recommend that Congress enact “legislation to create a new Federal agency to regulate and supervise the financial activities of our housing-related government sponsored enterprises” and set prudent and appropriate minimum capital adequacy requirements.
October: Fannie Mae discloses $1.2 billion accounting error.
November: Council of the Economic Advisers (CEA) Chairman Greg Mankiw explains that any “legislation to reform GSE regulation should empower the new regulator with sufficient strength and credibility to reduce systemic risk.” To reduce the potential for systemic instability, the regulator would have “broad authority to set both risk-based and minimum capital standards” and “receivership powers necessary to wind down the affairs of a troubled GSE.” (N. Gregory Mankiw, Remarks At The Conference Of State Bank Supervisors State Banking Summit And Leadership, 11/6/03).
2004
February: The President’s FY05 Budget againhighlights the risk posed by the explosive growth of the GSEs and their low levels of required capital, and called for creation of a new, world-class regulator: “The Administration has determined that the safety and soundness regulators of the housing GSEs lack sufficient power and stature to meet their responsibilities, and therefore…should be replaced with a new strengthened regulator.” (2005 Budget Analytic Perspectives, pg. 83)
February: CEA Chairman Mankiw cautions Congress to “not take [the financial market’s] strength for granted.” Again, the call from the Administration was to reduce this risk by “ensuring that the housing GSEs are overseen by an effective regulator.” (N. Gregory Mankiw, Op-Ed, “Keeping Fannie And Freddie’s House In Order,” Financial Times, 2/24/04).
June: Deputy Secretary of Treasury Samuel Bodman spotlights the risk posed by the GSEs and called for reform, saying “We do not have a world-class system of supervision of the housing government sponsored enterprises (GSEs), even though the importance of the housing financial system that the GSEs serve demands the best in supervision to ensure the long-term vitality of that system. Therefore, the Administration has called for a new, first class, regulatory supervisor for the three housing GSEs: Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac, and the Federal Home Loan Banking System.” (Samuel Bodman, House Financial Services Subcommittee on Oversight and Investigations Testimony, 6/16/04).
2005
April: Treasury Secretary John Snow repeats his call for GSE reform, saying “Events that have transpired since I testified before this Committee in 2003 reinforce concerns over the systemic risks posed by the GSEs and further highlight the need for real GSE reform to ensure that our housing finance system remains a strong and vibrant source of funding for expanding homeownership opportunities in America… Half-measures will only exacerbate the risks to our financial system.” (Secretary John W. Snow, “Testimony Before The U.S. House Financial Services Committee,” 4/13/05).
2007
July: Two Bear Stearns hedge funds invested in mortgage securities collapse.
August: President Bush emphatically calls on Congress to pass a reform package for Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, saying “first things first when it comes to those two institutions. Congress needs to get them reformed, get them streamlined, get them focused, and then I will consider other options.” (President George W. Bush, Press Conference, The White House, 8/9/07).
September: RealtyTrac announces foreclosure filings up 243,000 in August – up 115 percent from the year before.
September: Single-family existing home sales decreases 7.5 percent from the previous month – the lowest level in nine years. Median sale price of existing homes fell six percent from the year before.
December: President Bush again warns Congress of the need to pass legislation reforming GSEs, saying “These institutions provide liquidity in the mortgage market that benefits millions of homeowners, and it is vital they operate safely and operate soundly. So I’ve called on Congress to pass legislation that strengthens independent regulation of the GSEs – and ensures they focus on their important housing mission. The GSE reform bill passed by the House earlier this year is a good start. But the Senate has not acted. And the United States Senate needs to pass this legislation soon.” (President George W. Bush, Discusses Housing, The White House, 12/6/07).
2008
January: Bank of America announces it will buy Countrywide.
January: Citigroup announces mortgage portfolio lost $18.1 billion in value.
February: Assistant Secretary David Nason reiterates the urgency of reforms, says “A new regulatory structure for the housing GSEs is essential if these entities are to continue to perform their public mission successfully.” (David Nason, Testimony On Reforming GSE Regulation, Senate Committee On Banking, Housing And Urban Affairs, 2/7/08).
March: Bear Stearns announces it will sell itself to JPMorgan Chase.
March: President Bush calls on Congress to take action and “move forward with reforms on Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. They need to continue to modernize the FHA, as well as allow State housing agencies to issue tax-free bonds to homeowners to refinance their mortgages.” (President George W. Bush, Remarks To The Economic Club Of New York, New York, NY, 3/14/08).
April: President Bush urges Congress to pass the much needed legislation and “modernize Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. [There are] constructive things Congress can do that will encourage the housing market to correct quickly by … helping people stay in their homes.” (President George W. Bush, Meeting With Cabinet, the White House, 4/14/08).
May: President Bush issues several pleas to Congress to pass legislation reforming Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac before the situation deteriorates further.
“Americans are concerned about making their mortgage payments and keeping their homes. Yet Congress has failed to pass legislation I have repeatedly requested to modernize the Federal Housing Administration that will help more families stay in their homes, reform Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac to ensure they focus on their housing mission, and allow State housing agencies to issue tax-free bonds to refinance sub-prime loans.” (President George W. Bush, Radio Address, 5/3/08).
“[T]he government ought to be helping creditworthy people stay in their homes. And one way we can do that – and Congress is making progress on this – is the reform of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. That reform will come with a strong, independent regulator.” (President George W. Bush, Meeting With The Secretary Of The Treasury, the White House, 5/19/08).
“Congress needs to pass legislation to modernize the Federal Housing Administration, reform Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac to ensure they focus on their housing mission, and allow State housing agencies to issue tax-free bonds to refinance subprime loans.” (President George W. Bush, Radio Address, 5/31/08).
June: As foreclosure rates continued to rise in the first quarter, the President once again asks Congress to take the necessary measures to address this challenge, saying “we need to pass legislation to reform Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac.” (President George W. Bush, Remarks At Swearing In Ceremony For Secretary Of Housing And Urban Development, Washington, D.C., 6/6/08).
July: Congress heeds the President’s call for action and passes reform of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac as it becomes clear that the institutions are failing.
Yep, and Martin says the SFC.had nothing to do with banking laws, GSEs Fannie and Freddie, etc
Thanks gator. It adds very nicely to the picture that Clinton handed Bush the mess in the making.
These are the changes those banking laws that Clinton signed caused.
Here are the crucial move:
1.CDSs, credit default swaps were exempted from regulation in the Commodity Futures Modernization Act in the year 2000.
2.Hank Paulson was the Treasury secretary who engineered the AIG bailout. He worked for Goldman Sachs.
3. If a bank had the credit default swap insurance policies on a mortgage, especially if they had more than one, it was to their advantage to force foreclosure.
4. Obama mortgage program sets up homeowners for defaulting on their mortgage by reducing payments up front before qualification. The bank then stalled making a decision for a year by asking for different paperwork. They then handing homeowners a staggering bill, due in one month when they do not qualify. If the homeowners could meet the bill the banks then refused to name an actual amount due. (First hand experience. Took 6 months and a lawyer to nail bank down.)
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In other words there maybe more than one CDS on a mortgage and therefore it is much more profitable to collect the multiple payoffs than to refinance the mortgage.
Obama’s Mortgage Modification Program A Colossal Flop
Martin, btw, you have provided ZERO evidence for every assertion you have made on this post.
Really, start with “Discover the Networks” and read about Iraq under Bush, vs under the O.
Childish response, David.
How so?
My assertions on this post were to point out that the post I replied to made unsupported assertions. Otherwise, I asked quesrtions.
Reread your own posts. You made many assertions.
Which assertions do you want me to support with evidence?
Every one in your 10:46 post.
I don’t know where that is, David. Can you just quote my unsupported assertions the normal way? Or do you really just want to be obtuse?
Follow a simple time line.
We’re done, David. You are just trying to be an obstacle. I have made my point.
Please put a hat on it, you may hurt someone.
BTW, housing peaked and turned down in 06.
You were referring to the financial collapse caused by bad mortgages. The housing peak and subsequent downturn are/were normal events in the housing market. The financial collapse started in 2007, and Bush’s role in that collapse was his wasting of trillions on two wars rather than spending that money at home.
You are wrong. The collapse began in 2006. (look it up)
Federal Debt is a long term problem eventually debasing a currency, and had little direct causation to the collapse.
The year is irrelevant, David. Bush’s role was to waste trillions on two wars he should not have started instead of spending the money at home.
If the year is irrelevant, why did you wrongly correct me?
Go to “Discover the Networks” of you wish to really enlighten your naive mindset.
You asked for Bush’s role in the economic collapse. I gave you Bush’s role in the economic collapse.
Yes, I read your view of Bush’s role.
What role did the Senate finance committe play?
Committees don’t pass laws, so I think it didn’t play a definitive role. If you expect me to defend Congress here, I won’t, and why would you think I would? Bush’s role was to start two wars and waste trillions on them instead of spending the money at home.
Martin, your saying, “I do not know ” would have been sufficient.
More Marty lies…
Bush’s role was to start two wars…
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Declaration_of_war_by_the_United_States#Military_engagements_authorized_by_Congress
I think we’re done, David. You are being an obstacle to enlightenment.
Marty’s “…an obstacle to enlightenment.” of course means “You refuse to be a good little a dumb as dirt serf.”
No Marty, we are not as dumb and blind to the Elite’s game playing as you are. But thanks for giving us another chance to show people just how immune to reality socialists are.
Socialists, over two thousand years of being F..K over by the Elite and still willing to believe them another time.
In the year 404 BC, the despotic state of Sparta conquered Athens. A year later when the Athenians overthrew Spartian rule they executed Socrates on suspicion of sympathy with the Spartan cause. As a result, Socrate’s disciple, Plato, the scion of a noble family became devoted to aristocratic and despotic rule. A decade later he set up a think tank of not only philospophic teaching and research but also a fountainhead of policy programmes for social despotism. He even tried, unsucessfully to set up despotic regimes in the city state of Syracuse, while no less than nine of Plato’s students succeeded in establishing them selves as tyrants over Greek city-states. — From f link
And what was Sparta’s system of government? Ancient Spartan Communism
You are being an obstacle to enlightenment. Says the piece of granite.
To continue highlighting Marty’s ignoring reality.
“….meant to bring criminals into our country, destabilize our societies”
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
As part of the last wave of legalizing illegal immigrants Americans were given a promise and part of that promise was the Secure Fence Act of 2006. As usual the POLITICIANS LIED. Worse it is not just ordinary criminals and drugs flooding across our southern border.
FBI Director Robert Mueller testified to Congress in March 2005, that “there are individuals from countries with known al-Qaida connections who are changing their Islamic surnames to Hispanic-sounding names and obtaining false Hispanic identities, learning to speak Spanish and pretending to be Hispanic.”
March 22, 2015
September 24, 2009
March 17, 2010
March 22, 2013
And since Marty wants EVIDENCE Senator Sylvia Allen is happy to oblige.
March 23, 2012
Hezbollah terror threat on U.S.-Mexico border is real
on Feb. 2, former Chief of Operations for the U.S. Drug Enforcement Agency, Michael Braun, testified before Congress about Iran’s growing influence along the southern United States Border.
Braun testified that the terrorist group, Hezbollah, has developed strong, sophisticated relationships with Mexican drug cartels. “And by developing those relations it provides them with the ability to operate far from home in our neighborhood and – as I said earlier – on our doorstep,” he replied.
At the same hearing, “Rep. Michael McCaul, R-Texas, committee member and chairman of the Homeland Security Committee’s Subcommittee on Oversight and Investigations, asked about Hezbollah’s relationship to criminal organizations in the Western Hemisphere and what it means for U.S. security. Braun replied with the warning that those relationships allow “these groups to operate freely in our neighborhood” and said the U.S. would regret it if the threats were not taken seriously.”
On Feb. 9, Zachary Taylor, a former Border Patrol Agent who is now Vice Chairman of the National Association of Former Border Patrol Officers, appeared on national television and described the known relationship between cartel tunnels used for smuggling and the Shia militant group Hezbollah.
According to Mr. Taylor, a Muslim cleric, Abdullah al-Nafsi, said that “there is no need for airplanes and planning; one man with the courage to carry a suitcase of anthrax through the tunnels from Mexico to the United States could kill 330,000 Americans in one hour.”
Even Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano has recently expressed concern about a potential Hezbollah attack against the U.S.
Documented examples of terrorists slipping across our southern border are not new. Consider the following:
In February 2001, Mahmoud Kourani (the brother of Hezbollah’s security chief in southern Lebanon) came across the border from Tijuana into California in the trunk of a car, after bribing a Mexican embassy official in Beirut to get a visa. He eventually settled in Dearborn, Mich. Kourani had received training in weapons, intelligence, and spy craft in Iran.
In December 2002, Salim Boughader was arrested for smuggling 200 Lebanese, including Hezbollah operatives, across the border from Tiajuana into California. Boughader had previously worked for Hezbollah’s Al-Manar TV satellite network.
In July 2004, a woman named Farida Goolam Mohamed Ahmed was arrested at a Texas airport boarding a flight to New York after she either walked or swam across the Mexican border into Texas. According to the Washington Post, she was connected to a Pakistani terrorist group and was believed to be ferrying instructions to U.S.-based al-Qaeda operatives.
In January 2005, two Hamas operatives, Mahmoud Khalil and Ziad Saleh, were arrested as part of a criminal enterprise in Los Angeles. Both had entered the U.S. after paying a smuggler $10,000 each to take them across the border.
In November 2005, Texas Congressman John Culberson described on national TV how an Iraqi al-Qaeda operative on the terror watch list was captured living near the Mexico-Texas border. In addition, Texas border sheriffs reported in the same newscast that there were at that time, in Mexico just across from Brownsville, Texas, at least one — and probably three — narco-terrorist training camps, run by the Zetas, a paramilitary force that is the muscle and the army for the Gulf cartel. The sheriffs told Congressman Culberson about another narco-terrorist training camp operating outside of Del Rio, about 40 miles southwest.
Those are just a few examples of terrorists who were identified or captured. We have no idea how many other terrorists may have slipped across our unprotected border undetected. We do know that U.S. Border Patrol agents apprehended 59,017 “Other-Than-Mexican” illegal aliens through October 7, 2010. Of those, more than 800 came from terrorist-watch or Middle Eastern countries, such as Pakistan, Afghanistan, Syria, Cuba, Somalia, Iran, and Saudi Arabia.
Terrorism expert Patrick Poole reported to my committee last year that the first al-Qaida cell in the United States was located right here in Tucson. Tucson has been called the “birthplace of al-Qaida in America.”
Thanks Gail, I think Martin will simply say, “stop, too long, wrong graphic, not cogent, (when it clearly is)
The truth is your post is simply a small snap shot of the issues relevant to immigrants and the three to four Paris type massacres perpetuated every month by Islamists.
If Martin actually spent 100 hours reading “Discover the Networks” Jihad watch” “atlas shrugged” etc, he may not come across so ignorant.
Is 100 hours of study (of a contrary viewpoint) to much to ask before one spouts off nonsense?
“…Is 100 hours of study (of a contrary viewpoint) to[o] much to ask before one spouts off nonsense?
Not at all. It might even keep you and the rest of the American citizens from wearing slave collars.
It is interesting that when a Democrat Think Tank did research they (very grudgingly) admitted that the members of the Tea Party were much better educated and informed compared to the democratic voters.
Ignorance allows belief in the propaganda our would be masters spew. Marty is a great example of that type of ignorance. He believes what the elite propaganda machines, the MSM, feeds him without any investigation or critical thought.
He is also completely unable to take bits and pieces, the glimpses we get, and see the whole. Even if Toto ripped down the entire curtain I think he would still deny reality.
Since he now lives in the EU he might have the sword of reality sitting on his neck real soon. I wonder if he will still deny reality?
Interestingly a similar study found CAGW skeptics far more knowledgable regarding climate science then Green proponents.
Martin Smith says:
January 11, 2016 at 11:17 am
Gail, have any of the President’s executive actions been meant to bring criminals into our country, destabilize our societies….”
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And when I give him the ITEMIZED point by point list from a DEMOCRAT on how to destabilize the USA I get:
Martin Smith says:
January 11, 2016 at 12:32 pm
“…..Gail, please stop spamming long texts that have nothing to do with the subject….”
http://www.webweaver.nu/clipart/img/people/men/rotlmao.gif
Oh the wonders of trying to think when your head is misplaced by Socialism!
http://memeshappen.com/media/created/Head-in-butt-Syndrome-meme-21012.jpg
For those who do not understand, Obama is head of the administrative branch of the US government. The bureaucracy. That means ALL of their actions come from him.
President Harry Truman understood this
http://pixel.nymag.com/imgs/daily/intel/2012/10/16/16-truman.w529.h352.jpg
Note sign on the left of the desk.
http://www.loriferber.com/media/catalog/category/buckstopsherefrontsmall.jpg
Martin said he had a point. I told him to be careful where he put it. (-;
“Get off the train track! There’s a train coming!”
“A train? I don’t see a train. All you have done is made an assertion that there is a train. Why should I believe you?”
“Look! Look down the tracks. You can see the train yourself if you just look.”
“I have looked. I don’t see a train. All I see is a light and some kind of I-don’t-know-what behind it. You say it is a train. Prove it.”
“It’s a train! It is rolling down a train track and you are standing between the rails! Just look! You can feel the ground rumbling!”
“If there were really a train, wouldn’t there be some sort of sign warning about trains? Maybe a guard or something. One person yelling about trains doesn’t mean that there is a train! That light might be the moon — and that rumbling might very well be some sort of earthquake. You are not so stupid that you never heard of earthquakes, are you?”
“GET OFF THE TRACKS! THERE IS A TRAIN!”
“You really have to give up this delusion that your perception of a train is somehow more real than the proven existence of the moon and of earthquakes! If you keep —” SPLAT!!
Marty’s last words “Besides you are off topi…..” SPLAT
“He’s dead Jim”
He’s more than dead Jim he’s dead dead he’s past dead by a factor of 4 he’s so dead that he’s dead even where the dead go never mind get the shovel he’s still dead !
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4vuW6tQ0218
Reconciliation between believers and skeptics of AGW may be the best way to end hate-mongering between ethnetic and religious groups.
As noted in messages to Climate Skeptics and Junk Science, it is in the best interest of the inhabitants of planet Earth for believers and skeptics of AGW to work together:
http://junkscience.com/2016/01/nasa-to-save-planet-with-electric-airplanes/#comment-66488
We all (Christians, Muslims, Jews, Hindus, Buddhists, etc.) share a common interest in having the best available information about the forces of nature that will determine our shared fate.
I agree.
“We all share a common interest in having the best available information…”
January 26th 2006, BBC Television Centre, London
In that I fear you are incorrect. The goal is to push an agenda that will lead to a totalitarian world government headed by the corrupt UN bureaucracy and even the Pope is on board as is the Anglican Catholic Bishop. (He sent a rep of the Church of England to the meeting where the BBC decided to censor skeptics. Claire Foster, Church of England
)
http://joannenova.com.au/2012/11/bbc-secret-exposed-greenpeace-activists-bp-decide-what-sciencebrits-see-hello-twentyeightgate/
Claire Foster, Church of England
One of her books:
The Church, Roman and Anglican, has a thousand year history of backing the Aristocracy. We should never forget that.
Remember the bible we read is a translation of a translation of a translation that has been copied and recopied by hand. The Roman Catholic Church existed only with the agreement of the Aristocracy who they backed with the concept of the Divine Right of Kings. A bit of history on the concept
Professor Sommerville, Department of History, University of Wisconsin–Madison provides a lot of historic evidence in support.
Gail, you always use too many words to say as little as possible.
Martin Smith says:
“Gail, you always use too many words to say as little as possible.”
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Translation:
Marty is not capable of wearing Big Boy pants yet and joining in a conversation with complex ideas.
Citizens are armed.
Subjects are not.
https://whatyouthoughtiwentaway.files.wordpress.com/2015/09/democracy-two-wolves-and-a-sheep-voting-on-whats-for-dinner.jpg
Some interesting bits on the philosophy upon which Western Civilization is built
This is where the dislike of the individual, economic innovation and entrepreneurship comes from. A frozen society is a society that is safe for the Aristocracy/Elite because there is no challenge to their power, wealth or status. This is the basis for the entire CAGW con and the promotion of RIGHTS of ‘the community aka The State, over the RIGHTS of the individual that Marty and CFool are so busy defending.
One of my neighbors builds his own guns in his basement. Just requires some easy to acquire shop equipment. Will government outlaw lathes and such?
I think it is Ammo that is the critical factor and the government is working on that point.
US considers banning type of popular rifle ammunition
Actually there are plenty of ways to just shut down manufacturing plants.
Or they can just tack on high taxes to discourage people from buying ammo.
The second amendment was not concerned with crime, self defense, or sporting uses of weapons but rather with the ability of the people to form an effective militia with their own ARMS. When it was written, the revolutionary war had just been won, in part, with privately owned field artillery and warships. Thus Constitutionally all weapons are permitted to the people without restriction.
Why pick on Obama? I’m not defending him, but this has been going on for most of a century, and the Second Amendment right to keep and bear Arms (as originally defined “the weapons needed to wage war” per Jefferson) has been “illegal” since the National Firearms Act of 1933. The argument since then has been what personal weapons will citizens be allowed to keep and/or carry by their various governments.
It will continue to get worse, in this area and many others, until citizens and states take on their responsibility to enforce the Constitution on the federal government. Don’t hold your breath.
Steve —
Time for this troll aka Martin Smith to be given the boot. This thread should be evidence enough of his ill will.
don’t worry Marty will soon be runnin away with his tail between his legs just like his sock puppet Lawrence. Why is our troll Maetin afraid to use his other sock puppet who has been missing for a week?????
http://thewriterinblack.blogspot.com/2014/09/nobody-wants-to-take-your-guns.html
The TRAITOR FDR in action again…
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(On the start of gun control.)
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Mikey Do-caca, came to our plant to troll for the Union vote. He was given a tour and tried to shake everyone’s hand. I looked the Sleazewad up and down and then deliberately turned my back on him. He stood there with his mouth open. It was one of the bright spots of my life.
Remember it was because of Mikey Do-caca’s presidential bid that Wirth and Hansen pulled out their bag of dirty tricks to got CAGW on the table in Congress.
Sweet, Gail. Made me envious; I had my moment when
a few years ago a salesperson for the New York Times
called me with a sweetheart subscription deal to the
Times; My reply came out of the blue; The NYT is a
yellow liberal rag, I wouldn’t accept it as a gift! She paused,
and meekly replied ” you know, a lot of people feel that way.”
I dream for a chance to tell any liberal political hack what
I think of them. (75 years in Florida).
No TSA in Texas any longer ?
https://youtu.be/AKE98sJpGig
ALL of our public servants should be required to use commercial airlines and see how they like Grope-N-Fly!
MORE on the TSA
U.S. confers ‘EZ-Pass’ status on travelers from Saudi Arabia
A new Department of Homeland Security report has found that the TSA employed 73 people who had clear links with terrorism.
New York TSA Agent Sexually Attacked Woman In Airport Bathroom
Two TSA agents have been fired after it was revealed they had systematically groped male passengers at Denver International Airport with the assistance of female officers.
A TSA agent at JFK airport in New York has been caught stealing money from a passenger’s wallet at a security checkpoint on Saturday.
<a href="http://yournewswire.com/tsa-makes-over-half-a-million-a-year-off-your-loose-change/"The Transportation Security Administration is making upwards of $675,000.00 a year from loose change left behind at airport security checkpoints.
Here is yet another Soviet style tactic. Domestic passports for internal travel. This is the first step:
TSA: Microchipped ID For All Domestic U.S. Travel In 2016
New Year every day of the year sounds like a ‘great’ place to live !
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