After the shortest melt season on record, and the most rapid growth on record, Arctic sea ice extent is the largest in a decade.
Not only is extent increasing, but Arctic sea ice thickness has also increased by 40% over the last five years.
None of this will be reported by the criminals at US government agencies or in the press.
http://ocean.dmi.dk/satellite/plots/satsst.arc.d-00.png
Is there even a slight chance that the extent will encompass Iceland this winter? It has in the past and SSTs up there have been generally running colder than they’ve been for some time.
I doubt whether sea ice has encompassed Iceland but it has certainly affected the north coast in the past.
I believe it’s now time to add date lines prior to the year 2000 ; it appears, Arctic Ice is close to exceeding anything this Century! What a recovery; it could top out the coming maxima & minima if another short melt season, is repeated next year.
It should be noted that while Dmi with coastal areas masked out as Tony has presented shows ice extent as the highest in a decade. But the plot that includes coastal areas at that same source does not.
http://ocean.dmi.dk/arctic/plots/icecover/icecover_current_new.png
Nor does Sunshine hours plot: https://sunshinehours.files.wordpress.com/2015/10/arctic_sea_ice_extent_zoomed_2015_day_289_1981-2010.png?w=1024&h=682
Though both show a significant up slope heading towards. It sure looks like it will be another heart breaking winter in the Arctic for the Alarmists. Jim won’t have much to write about in his blog this winter it seems. Even the Polar bears are doing just fine though the BBC recently tried to paint a bleak picture again. Thankfully we have an authority like Susan Crockford to set the record straight.
https://notalotofpeopleknowthat.wordpress.com/2015/10/17/susan-crockford-responds-to-bbcs-misleading-article-on-polar-bears/
Damn it! Same old crap! Posting an older plot than that which I copied.
RAH, The URL even says ocean(DOT)dmi.dk/arctic/plots/icecover/icecover_current_new.png
Harsh winters & thick ice kills….including polar bears !!
An interesting thing to watch during late summer and early fall has been the failure of sea-ice to be exported south along the east coast of Greenland. O-buoy 9 is still at the latitude it reached in late August, (79.5°) and the North Pole Camera is still well north of Fram Strait, above 84°.
In the short term this reduces the total extent, because there is less ice flowing south and spreading out along Greenland’s coast, but in the long run it means there is more sea-ice “in the bank”, and the ice is more concentrated north of Fram Strait in the Arctic Sea.
Most of the ice appearing on the NRL maps east of Greenland now is baby-ice, and formed by the cold winds coming off Greenland. If it was not for this baby-ice the ice extent would be even lower. Therefore the fact the above graph shows extent higher than recent years obviously involves other parts of the Arctic Sea.
Alarmists can play with statistics (and so can Skeptics). Because ice has increased so swiftly, there is a lot of new baby-ice that isn’t all that thick. Therefore you are liable to see a graph for “average thickness” hauled out and dusted off, because the addition of a lot of thin baby-ice will lower the average thickness, (and allow some to claim the ice is getting thinner overall.)
It seems to be that besides the new and thin baby-ice we should be paying attention to the older ice, left behind and (so far) not exported south through Fram Strait. Because this ice is not exported south it is not melted away down in the Atlantic, and because it is not melted the total volume of the ice left behind is creeping upwards. The PIOMAS graph shows volume has reached its yearly low, and for the third straight year that low is higher than the prior year’s:
https://sunriseswansong.files.wordpress.com/2015/10/volume-20151018-bpiomasicevolumeanomalycurrentv2-1.png
https://sunriseswansong.wordpress.com/2015/10/12/arctic-sea-ice-polar-dusk/
“baby ice”
interesting term
not really questioning it’s validity
just makes the me think
if we do see a downturn in worldwide average temps
no doubt the alarmists will call it “new cold”
and therefore “anthropogenic climate change”
the age of science is over
religion is reborn
“Baby-ice”is a term that has been used for at least five years. It was, like “the blob”, created in a sort of tongue-in-cheek manner, poking fun at certain scientists who create jargon that only they understand.
What preverts science is the same thing that corrupts religion: a drifting away from Truth towards a selfish, grasping greediness. Therefore your comparison is apt.
But the only reason why most religions and science end up clashing is because of fundamentalists.
I think you are both right. The enormous advance of sciences in the 18th and 19th century was accomplished mostly by believers in Christ. We have also accumulated plenty of evidence that man seeks faith and will replace his belief on God with another absolute presence. The murderous horrors of 20th century totalitarianism show what will happen when man pursues such alternative “truths”.
I found this older comment about science, quasi-religion and politics:
My initial suspicions have solidified into certainty over the years that many of the alarmists come from this political and quasi-religious nexus. The most stubborn CAGW proponents I’ve met are not scientifically educated people but rather committed socialists and they exhibit the same inflexible position in their leftist beliefs, despite hard historical evidence against them.
That is also the reason why I disagree with those skeptics who say we must keep the discussion strictly scientific and keep politics out of it. How do you keep politics out of a political argument?
It is true that it’s nearly impossible to move the many “religiously” inspired alarmists away from their beliefs. The old adage about not arguing about someone’s religion comes to mind but more importantly, I find alarmists, and leftists in general, more self-righteous than typical members of traditional congregations. They “know” they are morally superior to me in a way any true Catholic, as an example, would be ashamed to feel.
The opportunity to change minds is elsewhere. I believe there are many “mild” believers who simply trust whom they consider the experts in the field but who at the same time have a healthy distrust in progressive big government prescriptions. These individuals in my opinion respond well to arguments linking the CAGW movement to other progressive causes just as Tony does here.
There is no doubt a learning curve when it comes to provable facts and logical conclusions because of the amount of popular science pollution discharged regularly by the perpetrators and their supporters. I know intelligent people who harbor some doubts but never committed the time needed to look into the matter despite the huge stakes they—like anyone on Earth—have in the outcome of this fight.
Before somebody attacks a subordinated part of this argument as fallacious I will point out I was well aware of the “No True Scotsman” angle when I wrote this. Others are free to take a different position but I have a definitive view of Christian faith and Christian humility that is supported by the Gospels.
Who took the fun out of fundamentalism?
Yeah! Whodunit?
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=damentalist
science has temporarily supplanted religion
and is developing the corruptions of it’s predecessor
the old religion will regain it’s former place
demographics
we can hope that science survives in its’ once more pure form
Government agencies and their propaganda ministries in the primary press only print the charts that they make up with manipulated data. According to the congregants of the Church of Catastrophic Warming the ice is melting faster than the wicked witch of the west and bi-polar bears have lost the will to swim.