Arctic Pong

Favorable winds have helped the Ship of Fools progress over the last two days by pushing the ice offshore, but they seem to have run into a blockage again and haven’t moved forward for 12 hours.

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  1. Lawrenec13 says:

    Yep, nowt since 07:25am nearly four hours since the Northabout stopped, pointing north. The wind later today is set to move to the NW so could that possibly prevent further progress for now. I guess they are either unable to make any further progress anyway as they would have surely gone for it in their bid to show there is no ice.

  2. Lawrenec13 says:

    There she goes. Northabout moving east almost retracing last nights route from which they gave up. Looks like the started on the move around 11:15

  3. Lawrenec13 says:

    There she goes. Northabout moving east almost retracing last nights route from which they gave up. Looks like the started on the move around 11:15

  4. Olaf Koenders says:

    If they keep going back for vodka, they’ll never get there. Maybe that was really the point of the whole trip – wasting ill-gotten funds for a boozy sail to nowhere proving nothing except they lied about their original mission, the plans for which were gained from even bigger liars.

  5. Caleb says:

    They face a dangerous period of northwest winds and southbound ice, before the desired south winds help them again. This is no longer about the bunkum of Global Warming; it is about survival.

    https://sunriseswansong.wordpress.com/2016/08/12/arctic-sea-ice-northabout-battles-sea-ice-through-vilkitsky-strait-and-laptev-sea/

    • Caleb says:

      If you have a translate key, here is a well-done post about the travails of the Northabout in Hungarian:

      http://klimahiszteria.blogspot.ro/2016/08/napi-erdekesseg-36-polar-ocean.html

      The real reporting is occurring on sites on the web, as the Mainsteam Media drifts to its downfall in drivel.

      I’d like to thank all the contributors to Tony’s posts. You are only doing the work that the American Lamestream can’t be bothered to do anymore

    • Neal S says:

      Hey Caleb, thanks a lot for that Hungarian website. While google translate is often surprisingly good, there are some things it doesn’t quite get right.

      https://www.google.com/#q=google+translate

      For example … “széljárásról” … but if you split it up to “szél járás ról” then it can make heads and tails of it. Loosely translated “széljárásról” is “wind directions, about”. Hungarian is an agglutinative language, and multiple suffixes and prefixes can be added to words. Sometimes a single Hungarian word with enough prefixes and suffixes, can be an entire sentence in English.

      The author of that website noticed the drinking tendencies of the crew.

      The graphics are quite good. He has done well what some of us have been struggling to do here. Near the end he mentioned how the wind is currently blowing and they might be able to sneak through, but it can be hazardous if they should fail to make it through before the winds turn.

    • Neal S says:

      The Hungarian website also mentions that this voyage has been done multiple times before.

      “But already (before the Little Ice Age ) we managed to get through in the 1600s in the Portuguese Melgueiro David ‘s , and since then several ships, mainly in the 1930s and 40s, also were regularly able to navigate the route .”

  6. Szilard says:

    And turning back SW again!
    Indeed an arctic ping-pong!

  7. Lawrenec13 says:

    Winds not favourable by 6pm GMT. It was mentioned in recent logs how the ice was moving around stiff NW this afternoon

  8. FTOP says:

    I don’t begrudge the spirit of adventure embodied by this voyage, but I am doubtful that the postmortem from this effort will be accurate.

    Similarly to BEST, agenda driven science rarely leads to discovery.

    Were this team to come back and say that the arctic is a foreboding place full of ice and risks and a place far from sublime, they would earn my respect.

    Unfortunately, I suspect this will be spun as “proof” of man’s impact on the climate and the ping-pong match against the ice will be ignored.

    It is not different from the solar flight around the world. The absurd logistics and fragile nature of the quest proved that solar is not viable for air travel, yet it was heralded as validation by the green energy movement.

    • Jason Calley says:

      No doubt the trip report will be some variation of what we hear from people who get whipped in a fist fight. “And I would have beat him into the ground if he hadn’t knocked me out with that one lucky punch!”

    • Lawrenec13 says:

      I see it like this: if the more AGW zealots behind this adventure know people like Tony and us to a lesser extent are watching every move it makes it very hard for them to spin the story. Its the kind of story that someone like James Delingepole (Breitbart news) or Christopher Booker (Sunday Telegraph ) would just love to slam home if there are any shenanigans afoot

    • Martin says:

      I don’t think that it is fair to compare the Solar Impulse to the Northabout trip.

      Solar Impulse demonstrated a wide range of engineering advances in materials, batteries, electronics etc and did so by pushing these new technologies to the absolute limit. The project would not have been possible even a few years ago so it was genuinely ground breaking and set a record as a benchmark which will no doubt soon be broken.

      The Northabout by contrast set out to “demonstrate that the Arctic sea ice coverage shrinks back so far now in the summer months that sea that was permanently locked up now can allow passage through” On their homepage they happily acknowledge that the route has previously been navigated in a sailing boat by Børge Ousland (in 2010) – it has probably been done by others too. So they are doing nothing new, they are not demonstrating any new technologies they are simply making the right kind of green noises to get publicity. Oh and their claim to be record breaking? That would be young Ben who at 14 will be the youngest ever to have travelled the route in a sailing boat. The next trip will have to take a babe in arms to be sure of staying in the record books !!

      • RAH says:

        I don’t think it is fair to say that the Solar Impulse is breaking ground for future manned flight either. Which is exactly what some are doing. It may have demonstrated new technologies but to claim that it’s showing the way for the future of manned flight is just hogwash. There simply is not the energy available for the power needed for practical, timely, and economical manned flight no matter how far solar technology advances. Perhaps we shall someday see drones for specialized tasks that will at least in part use solar power for their thrust but that is as far as it can go.

        • Martin says:

          Yes Solar Impulse people talked some BS – they did however do something that had not previously been done……unlike the Northabout – unless you see any significance in taking a child around the North pole in a sailing boat

    • AZ1971 says:

      More than 18 months to fly around the world is not something to be heralding by anyone if this was intended as a proof of concept. A solar-powered drone could have been launched that would have flown much higher and capable of using not only the jet stream but a higher angle of incidence to the sun to finish the trip in one leg and within days at most. Why the ballyhoo over a solar-powered plane? Does anyone think that it will revolutionize air travel?

      (Of course, I meant anyone with a modicum of intelligence, reason, and who isn’t on some kind of mind-altering medication.)

      • Martin says:

        While I agree that solar has little likelihood of being relevant to passenger flights, I think that the technologies demonstrated on Solar Pulse (composites, batteries, PV cells lightweight electric motors) have great potential in shipping cargo. If married up to airships then the issue of the power needed to get off the ground is negated. Being solar powered would alleviate the need to carry fuel so payload could be increased, and would also alleviate the need for re-fueling infrastucture on the ground so in effect would allow take off and landing anywhere.

        With a lift weight of only one shipping container, a UAV solar powered airship could replace a truck taking a container load of goods from a seaport direct to an inland distribution centre with the cost savings of no driver, no fuel cost and no traffic jam delay (in the UK this really matters!!) It would travel at no great speed, say 50 miles per hour – the same as a truck, but could take the shortest “as the crow flies” route so would be faster. If the airship could deliver two shipping containers at a time it would be a distribution manager’s dream come true.

        • Harry D says:

          Martin, you’re dreaming. The helium can provide most of the lift, but you still need to push the airship through the sky and you still need to have some aerodynamic lift to account for changes in weight and lift with rain and temperature. If you want any realistic speed, that’s going to take a lot of power and solar doesn’t have a snowball’s chance.

  9. Neal S says:

    Now another ships log update “A Stamukha is an iceberg that is touching the bottom.”
    http://polarocean.co.uk/stamukha/

  10. David Blake says:

    Synoptic chart is showing 10, 15 and 20 Kts Southerly/Southeasterlies in their location. It *should* push the ice off shore, but doesn’t seem to be doing so..!

    http://www.nsra.ru/en/charts_synoptic/

  11. CheshireRed says:

    Considering the Arctic ocean should be ‘ice free’ they seem to be hugging that coastline very closely.

  12. John of Cloverdale WA Australia says:

    This should be a summer Olympic sport.

    • Colorado Wellington says:

      Tacking through summer ice! That’s forward thinking in a cooling world.

      Another summer Olympic sport could be unfreezing donkeys. It’s already popular in Turkey and other Middle East countries.

    • Colorado Wellington says:

      Here’s a team of Turkish athletes:

      • Jason Calley says:

        Colorado, that is just an insult. That is NOT a team of athletes. Those are their wives.

        :)

      • Colorado Wellington says:

        Jason, I did not know that! I apologize to the husbands. In my defense, I got the references to this new sport from culturally hegemonistic Western media.

        I promise I will pay more attention. We in Progressive Boulder should know better. Now, are you sure these men are husbands and not “Male Guardians” as defined in the Sharia law? The People’s Republic of Boulder already has a similar “Guardian Ordinance”, passed by our Progressive City Council in 2000 (see below). I must compare the “Guardian” definitions in both legal texts when I have a moment.

        Either way it shows how truly advanced non-western cultures are and how they can guide Progressive societal changes in our country when we finally rid ourselves of the frightening heritage of Western cultural imperialism.

        ————————————————————————-
        Only in Boulder: A home for pet ‘guardians’
        By Ryan Morgan
        ColoradoDaily.com

        The inspiration for a campaign came to Rita Anderson just after a cold winter day in 1999, as she watched a Dalmatian she called “Mikey” shivering in a backyard that bordered on Martin Park.

        Legally, the dog’s owners weren’t being cruel. Mikey had a doghouse where he could escape the cold and the heat, which is what animal control officers told Anderson when she called them asking for help — as she did on several occasions.

        Then a friend told her about a budding movement among animal-rights supporters to refer to pets’ owners as “guardians.” And that’s when she decided to try and convince the Boulder City Council to change the city’s ordinances, striking “owner” in favor of “guardian.”

        “What if these people, instead of thinking, ‘We own Mikey’ — what if they thought of themselves as guardians, and what if they thought of themselves as having responsibilities toward him as a sentient being with his own needs and his own rights?” she said.

        “I thought, maybe if we got this changed here — it’s not going to change anything for Mikey, but maybe people would see it in a different way.”

        Making the change ended up being surprisingly easy.

        The idea’s backers weren’t spared derision — then-assistant city attorney Walter Fricke referred to the proposal as “social engineering” in a memo to the City Council. One Boulder man told the Camera that the measure “is another of those items that makes Boulder look like we are truly outside of reality.”

        But politically, it went smoothly. On July 11, 2000, the City Council voted unanimously to make the change, as part of a larger ordinance amending several other animal-related laws. The change made it clear that the term “guardian” wasn’t giving animals any extra rights, as “guardians” were defined as “owners” in the code.

        Alan Boles, an assistant city attorney who also worked on the language, said the measure wasn’t meant to create change overnight.

        “I’ve always viewed it as symbolic. But Boulder loves symbolic actions,” he said. “Our transgender ordinance is essentially symbolic, our foreign policy is essentially symbolic. Symbolism is important in Boulder.”

        In Defense of Animals, an animal-rights group that once employed Anderson, started a campaign in the wake of the successful change in Boulder to convince other cities to follow suit. In the past nine years, 18 cities have made the change, ranging in temperament from Berkeley, Calif., to Bloomington, Ind.

        Nearly a decade later, when Boles sees signs at city parks that urge “guardians” to look after their animals, Boles thinks the language is a small, but positive, step.

        “It’s intended to get people to think about what their relationship with their animals should be, and to get away from the ‘property and ownership’ concept and into more of a ‘caring and nurturing’ concept,” he said.

        http://www.coloradodaily.com/ci_13116998

        • Jason Calley says:

          Hey Colorado! Have you seen this video? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LmfRMeU6pQ8

          “My little girl’s name is SNOW!”

          • Colorado Wellington says:

            Hey Jason! That’s fantastic! Somebody is taking the fight to the racist specieists, invading their dens.

            I have not seen this incursion before but I have a weird feeling I know Kelly. I could be wrong and it’s just her blazing eyes I recognize. We have a lot of her fellow sufferers here. They move around in herds and flocks, just like in the clip.

          • Gator69 says:

            I would love to see Snow’s supporters in a cage match with these folks…

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A_JPcBwYGmo

            Although something tells me that it would simply devolve into a cry-off. Where is George S Patton when you need him?

          • RAH says:

            How come I am sitting here imagining what would happen to “Snow” if that neurotic individual or any of her posse got hungry enough? Or what she would do if she went and watched the children digging through the dump outside Mexico city looking at her “Snow” longingly. The problem with the states closing up their mental hospitals is that now they walk among us.

          • Colorado Wellington says:

            I would love to see Snow’s supporters in a cage match with these folks…

            That would be like putting Sunnis and Shia in the same cage. You think they’d have a cry-off?

            The huggers only eat moss rock or mulch and top soil from Home Depot. The vegans are a voracious crowd. They’d tell the huggers they want to lick and eat their trees. It would be a bloody mess.

          • Colorado Wellington says:

            I would love to see Snow’s supporters in a cage match with these folks…

            Gator, that would be like putting Sunnis and Shia in the same cage. You think they’d have a cry-off?

            The huggers only eat moss rock or mulch and top soil from Home Depot. The vegans are a voracious crowd. They’d tell the huggers they want to lick and eat their trees.

            It would be a bloody mess.

        • Gator69 says:

          Hey CW! When will the fine pet guarding residents of Boulder be able to label themselves as a “spouse”? Progress, you know.

          • Colorado Wellington says:

            I don’t know, Gator. Progress can be slow at times, even here, but Boulder NAMALA activists are very positive about their civil union prospects (as a start). The merger of Progressive western ideologies and Progressive non-western cultures results in a new Progressive family model.

        • TeaPartyGeezer says:

          That was 17 years ago. Us pet owners have evolved from ‘pet guardians’ to ‘PET PARENTS.’

          Pet supply stores are especially egregious. I love my cats, but I am NOT their parent!

          • Gail Combs says:

            I generally look at my animals from the point of view of replacement value. Also is spending several thousand on one animal jeopardizing the lives of the others including mine?

            Every single one of these snowflakes needed gold fish and guppies as young children to teach them animals (and humans) die and flinging gobs of money at a vet will not change that.

      • Gail Combs says:

        No, no that is a bunch of Hitlery followers PROVING Gore Bull Warbling is REAL!

        ………….

        Poor things. Freezing rain is a real livestock killer.

        I never worry about snow but a forecast of freezing rain and wind means the livestock gets put into shelters and all the livestock tanks get filled to the brim because you KNOW the electric is going out.

        • RAH says:

          Freezing rain followed by a hard freeze is the worst for sure. Not just hard on livestock either. Lost an SF troop in my Battalion to it in NH. When everything gets wet then the bottom drops out of the thermometer you damn well better build a fire no matter how tactical your trying to be. Otherwise people die.

          He was hypothermic separated from his hypothermic team that were all trying to get down off the Mountain. He fell into a fast moving stream while trying to cross on an ice covered log. Rucksack strap hooked on a branch and hung him there in the water but with his head above the water. He was so out of it he didn’t think to pull the quick release on the strap to release himself from the trap and have a chance to survive. Who knows? He may have tried but been unable to do so because of non functioning fingers. When they found him still hanging there his head was covered in ice from the water breaking over it and freezing. Attempts to save him by a imminent specialist in reviving hypothermia victims that happened to be at a near by hospital failed. But the patient is not dead until their warm and dead is the rule for such situations.

          • Gail Combs says:

            Too right RAH,

            Give me below freezing with snow any day of the week. It is not nearly as deadly.

            (I almost froze to death walking home from school in a blizzard in upstate NY when I was 6. Luckily my parents came looking when big brother showed up home without me.)

  13. Realist says:

    Is there a map showing the path of their entire journey? I’d like to compare their path and an actual NW passage journey. This is the only image I can find. http://www.featurepics.com/FI/Thumb300/20111003/Spaghetti-2014868.jpg

    • Rud Istvan says:

      The complete planned route is mapped on their website. Polarocean.co.uk. Including Bristol to Murmansk, and Davis Strait to Bristol, about 13000-13500 km. The Arctic circumnavigation portion is about half of that. They have covered about 1000km since Murmansk so have about another 5500 km to go. Roughly 3000 to the planned Barrow stop for reprovisiong, roughly 2500 thru NWP to Davis Strait, depending on the route they choose. From now, they have at best to mid-October to clear Davis Strait. They can still make it running 24/7 in blue water at 7 knots. But NWP is very unlikely to be blue water this year. It will be more like 2013 and with 3/5 sea ice in quite a few places. Essay Northwest Passage in ebook Blowing Smoke has lots of pictures from 2010 to 2013. Their speed under those circumstances will be forced to well under 5 knots and they are likely to get stuck without Canadian icebreaker assistance.

  14. Neal S says:

    Right now, the AIS tracking is more up-to-date than the one on the SOF website. AIS as of two hours ago puts them right where they’ve been. The status just turned 2 hours old a few minutes ago. If they stay put too much longer, they will miss their favorable wind opportunity and wind up not being able to make it through before the wind turns.

    While no ships log or crew blog updates, there was a tweet saying “Back on our favourite Stamukha. Went for another recce. Came back.”

  15. Neal S says:

    And we now have updated Russian ice charts … and it is even worse than before.

    http://www.nsra.ru/ru/chart_ice_laptev_sea/

    I have put a red arrow pointing to where they are pretty much at. So now we know why they have been going back and forth. They have been hitting the wall of 90-100% ice in brown to their east. And there is a LOT of it to go through according to the Russian ice charts.

    Not looking too good for mission success at this point.

  16. Neal S says:

    Apologies. Looking at it more closely, they are even further east and are IN the thick of it. (Ice that is) Tracking as of 9 minutes ago.

    Northabout
    Fri Aug 12th, 201612:55:45 pm
    Speed: 0.00 km/h Heading: N
    Elevation: 12.49 m Batt: Normal
    Lat: 76.720791 Lon: 110.116588

    • Colorado Wellington says:

      So 3 forays so far to “look at the ice”.

      • RAH says:

        Ice that was not supposed to be there.

        • Colorado Wellington says:

          Is it not the only thing that makes it exciting? What would be the thrill of sailing so far north just to look at something that is supposed to be there?

          Would you drive to the other end of your county to look at some old junk that everybody seems to have in the attic?

          • RAH says:

            Hey! Where did you get a picture of my attic? Your gonna make me start locking the doors!

          • Colorado Wellington says:

            That’s not your stuff! It’s our attic and our junk! Who gave you the idea it’s yours? I’m happy we keep our doors locked. I swear, if I ever catch anyone taking our junk …

          • RAH says:

            Should have recognized it wasn’t mine but it sure looks familiar except there aren’t any doll houses or other toys for little girls or Christmas lawn decorations among it. But it is very similar. I notice that like mine, your roof foundation are the slats from the good old days before they started using OSB and thus probably constructed when dimensional lumber actually was milled to the dimensions used to describe it.

          • RAH says:

            People! People are just cantankerous about the things they believe are rightfully theirs.
            For the last few weeks the company I drive for has been loosing quite a few senior drivers. Some of those that have quit have been there for 18 years or more. A lot of this came about because a lot of the good paying dedicated out and back runs we were doing for Nissan had gone away. The company wasn’t making money on them and bid them to make a profit and lost them.

            So after a couple months of hearing people piss and moan about the good dedicated runs going away I get a call today. Warning order that I am set up to do a Nissan run to Canton, MS and back departing at 17:00 Sunday. One of those very runs that so many people claimed they coveted so much! A run where a guy would get 1,400 mi in for the week and be back by 02:00 Tuesday morning and ready to go out again by noon on Tuesday! Yet here the dispatchers are calling the Nissan floaters that are supposed to cover those runs and all the several board runners that aren’t already set up on another run and nobody is answering their phones. So I get the call.

          • Colorado Wellington says:

            I am sorry, RAH. I looked closer and this is not our junk. It just looks like ours and that’s why I may have saved the picture.

            Maybe it is yours, after all. :)

          • Colorado Wellington says:

            I remember you writing about the “senior” drivers before. This is a nice sequel about human nature.

            My personal experience is that if you fix or take away something people like to bitch about, they’ll bitch about something else.

            Good luck on the road. I didn’t say “be safe” because I know you will but I also know Lady Luck will have her say in the end.

          • RAH says:

            Thanks, CW.

            Looks like I’ll be running through some wet weather. The route is so simple and I’ve done it enough over the years that the truck knows the way. Take I-70 to Effingham and take a left then keep going south. The only towns with traffic along the way are Indy and Memphis. When they get the I-69 commercial corrider done (A high speed avenue of approach for illegal aliens) that will become the preferred route for most of the trip.

        • Jimmy Haigh says:

          Ice thatcisn’t there according to 97% of…

      • Martin says:

        Too much Vodka !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  17. Lawrenec13 says:

    I’d say about here . so you can see that all the ice is to the east and where they need to go. The wind now is to the NW and 45KPH. Doesn’t look good for a day or two. Break out the emergency vodka and FFS look out for polar bears

    • Neal S says:

      So Lawrenec13, do you think the SOF are to the right of the longitude line close to where you are pointing, or do you think they are to the left of that? Are they in the green of the ice-chart, or are they in the brown of the ice chart? Also how does having the image even SMALLER help clarify things any?

      • Lawrenec13 says:

        Has your smaller brain helped you?

        To be honest I just can’t crack the ‘larger image’ , I’m screen shotting using paint, what are you using?

        There is that better. Mine although not the size I’m trying to achieve is still clearer than yours. By the way I used google earth for L&L but there really is something about you latitude that stinks.

        Look you can either just …. off and don’t bother me and I won’t bother you, or take less of a sarcastic tone.

      • Lawrenec13 says:

        I said “about”, you had to rectify your first attempt.

      • Lawrenec13 says:

        Actually mine gives the Northabout and the amount of sea ice far better scale and perspective Mere try this , why I’ve even added a touch of shading.

        • Lawrenec13 says:

          Actually mine gives the Northabout and the amount of sea ice far better scale and perspective Mere try this , why I’ve even added a touch of shading.

      • Neal S says:

        And yet you failed to answer my question as to where you think they are. Your arrow is pointing at LAND. It is a simple question.
        Do you think they are in the green, or the brown? (Your arrow points to LAND) Do you think they are left of the longitude line or to the right of it?

        • Cam says:

          Neal S. They’re almost right on top of it. According to their voyage tracker, they’re currently at Lat 76.72 N and Long 110.12 E

          • Neal S says:

            I know that. I am trying to see what Lawrenec13 thinks.

          • Gail Combs says:

            HMMmm looking at the Russian chart it looks like the SOF is in the dark green just below the orange and NOT hugging the coast.

            I am taking it the dark brown is close to solid ice.

          • Lawrenec13 says:

            Neal is a wanker who seems to have taken a dislike to me. Tell you what Kneel if you are in the UK, lets settle this like men, or is that appropriate in your case

          • Rud Istvan says:

            GC, the Russian charts are labeled in %ice. The dark brown is labeled 9-10. That means 90-100% ice covered. Unnavigable. Light green is 1-3, essentially navigable with care, but not fast.
            The numbers are a bit deceptive, because leads can open that the boat could follow. Problem is, they can close and trap the boat also. Foolhardy to take that boat into anything more than about 5 and then you are motoring, not sailing, for the requisite maneuverability.

          • Gail Combs says:

            Rud Istvan,

            Thanks for the explanation of the numbers on the Russian chart.

            I get the feeling they keep trying to find a way through that solid brown area and keep having to turn back.

            They certainly not ‘sailing’

        • Lawrenec13 says:

          My arrow is pointing at land ? Do you really think that I think the boat is on land ? First you complain my images aren’t large enough and when they are you are such a nasty piece of jerk you sarcastically say I think the boat is on land!!!!!. Your problem is jealousy

          You are a nasty twat, and I thought we were all on the same side.

        • Douglas Kubler says:

          They are into solid brown. I plotted their last position on Google Earth. Note the 110 longitude line on the Russian chart.

  18. Neal S says:

    There is a new ships log update. We now can know what has been going on.

    http://polarocean.co.uk/must-tried-every-single-option-three-times-just-3-miles-300-miles/

    ” We must have tried every single option three times. Just 3 miles, but it could have been 300 miles.”

    “New ice charts in tonight, really rubbish, and in fact worse than the last ones. The coast still stopping us, but we have a massive storm coming our way. 35 knot winds with gusts of 50 predicted. It should break the ice up though.”

  19. Margaret Berger says:

    What? What? You mean they are depending on the wind to get rid of the ice that isn’t there because it melted?

    • Rud Istvan says:

      Yes. In the Arctic, summer pack ice depends greatly on how the wind compacts or disperses it. That is one reason the usual 15% ice extent metric (so 85% open water) is so suspect. Northabout is caught on that for them unfavorable truth. The pack ice is wind compacted, and they cannot get through.
      “Open water ” in NWP in September is often more than 50% actual ice. See images from 2010-2013 in essay Northwest Passage in my ebook Blowing Smoke for illustrated examples.

  20. Scott says:

    When does Obama send them a nuclear powered ice breaker to take them out of their misery?

    • Gail Combs says:

      Obama uses drones to put people out of their misery not ice breakers.

    • Rud Istvan says:

      As you already knew, Obummer has no nuclear icebreakers. Just two old past retirement USCG oilers. Russia has 14 new nuc icebreakers. Guess who wins the Arctic?

  21. Lawrenec13 says:

    So according to the latest log the Polar team have decided to drop the ideology and go with the floe instead, literally hitching up to a large lump of ice for stability and some wave calming. As the weather maps charts showed as of yesterday the wind switched to the NW at 45 KPH and according to Hempie their ice charts show the ice is now worse. I’m obviously no expert in these matter but I wonder if after the stiff NW that’s paced the ice into the shore even tighter can the projected southerlies push it away again in time. The Arctic sea ice starts to freeze in September and of course that wouldn’t be an homogenous process and some parts will freeze earlier than others . So the issue is will they make the NE leg let alone the whole trip back to the Atlantic in one season. I have to say though its rather exciting and a treat being able to follow this with todays fantastic levels of communication against the back drop of the ‘expedition’ almost being like heavyweights slugging it out competition, between the sceptic and the alarmist. They should rename the boat the North Bout.

  22. RAH says:

    Their chances of making it through really aren’t looking good at all right now. Another storm stronger than the last bearing down on them.

    • Lawrenec13 says:

      Isn’t the storm a double edged sword in that it breaks up the ice. I would assume though you cannot sail or under engine power risk picking your way through broken ice in a storm. I would imaging they are going to have to wait it out.

  23. CheshireRed says:

    This is like watching a live-running comedy show.
    .
    “By doing this we will be demonstrating that the Arctic sea ice coverage shrinks back so far now in the summer months that sea that was permanently locked up now can allow passage through.”
    .
    Reality check: despite hugging the coastline they’re stuck because of…too much sea ice. No wonder our intrepid heroes aren’t getting much exposure in the Guardian or BBC. Had the seas actually been ice-free this would be given front-page headlines. Great stuff!!

    • Lawrenec13 says:

      Absolutely, even if they eventually get through it isn’t exactly an endorsement for changing shipping routes, is it?

  24. Lawrenec13 says:

    She’s Orf!!!!!!!!! Back east again.

    By the way the image I’m going to post is a screen shot placed in paint and then resized. I’ve tried to enlarge due to criticisms from certain quarters and of course I want folk to be able to see it, but for now its the best I can do and would appreciate and advice.

    • Lawrenec13 says:

      One more try

      • Lawrenec13 says:

        Increased the file size but it doesn’t correspond with a larger image in fact its smaller.

        • wert says:

          The size of the picture in terms of pixels and kilobytes is OK, but your browser might choose to render it small on a portable device.

        • Douglas Kubler says:

          In Chrome right click on the image and select view in new tab. It will show the full size. In fact your enlarged try was so big I could see only 1/4 area at once without scrolling.

      • RAH says:

        Trying hard to break through before the storm mixes it all up again. And besides, Stamukha and grounded pressure ridge of ice or not, it sure didn’t seem to me that was the place one would desire to ride out a gale.

  25. gator69 says:

    Vodka Pong!

  26. Neal S says:

    And the SOF have now gone beyond where they had been stuck before.

    Northabout
    Sat Aug 13th, 20169:27:00 am
    Speed: 11.13 km/h Heading: ESE
    Elevation: 22.64 m Batt: Normal
    Lat: 76.755048 Lon: 110.735235

  27. Lawrenec13 says:

    They seem to have gotten through the worse of the ice, it looks like plain sailing bar any ice being blown further down the coast by the NW. Lets try another image

    • Lawrenec13 says:

      The coast looks clear

      • Neal S says:

        Did you go directly to the Russian Ice Chart source to make SURE you have the most recent Ice Charts??? Please double check.

        http://www.nsra.ru/ru/chart_ice_laptev_sea/

      • Douglas Kubler says:

        What is the date range at the bottom of your chart? When I get it (the latest barring cache problems) there is a second blob of brown on the coast. The bottom of the chart says August 10-12.

      • Neal S says:

        I have mentioned before that the PolarOcean web page for Sea Ice is not updated as regularly as the sources it comes from. In part this could be due to bandwidth issues for the SOF. But since they tell you WHERE they get their info from, it is a simple task to go to THAT source, and check if it happens to be more recent.

        Failing to check for most recent information before posting is not helping anyone if the information you are posting from happens to be stale.

        This applies to both the MODIS as well as the Russian Ice Charts.

  28. Lawrenec13 says:

    Someone seems to have taken all my images off can someone please explain?

  29. Neal S says:

    SOF is still on the move … currently at ..
    Northabout
    Sat Aug 13th, 201612:57:30 pm
    Speed: 10.10 km/h Heading: ESE
    Elevation: 20.61 m Batt: Normal
    Lat: 76.660161 Lon: 111.902018

    I’ve included most recent ICE chart image dated Aug 10-12
    There may still be some obstructions up ahead for the SOF.

    • Lawrence13 says:

      That ‘ll be well blown away by tomorrow and they have found away to pick through the ice with the Russian mate up the mast

      From the latest log.

      “For this moment in time, we have solved the puzzle. The labyrinth of ice which as trapped us for days is consigned to the past. It was a team effort. Denis, at the top of the mast, for more than an hour, called out directions to Captain Nikolay, who has taken over the helm ”

      Unless the wind switches to a NE to E they will have no problem getting through.

    • Lawrenec13 says:

      Mr ‘know it all’, what do you think ?

  30. wizzum says:

    Looking at the infrared image for Victoria straight/Mcclintock Channel, it wont take much of a temperature drop to turn the whole thing solid.

    They’ll need to get a wiggle on.

  31. Szilard says:

    I think they have made it!
    The gate is opening, here is the 3 day forecast from the russian ice-chart site:
    https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-rbFVtA94I9M/V69vTSo0DEI/AAAAAAAAAqU/R3lNbJBcWms2tYWtItmk0_MsHAWOydH4gCEw/s1600/u7-2.png

  32. Szilard says:

    And you can see on the first map, wich was the forecast for today, that along the shore the ice is 10-30%. That’s why they have made the progress!

  33. etudiant says:

    While one can admire the pluck of the crew and the obvious skill of the captain, their efforts demonstrate clearly that the Arctic is not open to navigation in any conventional sense. Is that not the opposite of what they set out to prove?

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