Experts Say It Is The Hottest Winter Ever In The US

With Lake Ontario about to break its all-time record for ice cover, experts say it is the hottest winter ever in the US

ScreenHunter_7255 Feb. 17 22.06 KREM 2 NEWS on Twitter: “This winter is the warmest on record across the country #krem2 http://t.co/3VgQMp8WfC”

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76 Responses to Experts Say It Is The Hottest Winter Ever In The US

  1. I think Obama must have appointed Marie Harf head of climate propaganda.

    • Winnipeg Boy says:

      When i went to college it was very evident that the meterology department was disproportionately populated with pot-heads.

      • rah says:

        I don’t remember which school at IU in Bloomington, IN had the most pot heads for sure. But it had to be either the Ernie Pyle School of Journalism or the Sociology department. At least the grad students at the Journalism school took baths, the Sociology department staff seemed to consistently have a problem with personal hygiene.

      • gator69 says:

        My experience was that most meteorology students were washed up athletes. The stoners were in the sociology, journalism, and political science departments.

        • rah says:

          Buddy of mine that went there for Forensic sciences when I was there graduated and ended up flying A-10s for a living.

        • Ernest Bush says:

          The sports writer for the campus newspaper at U of Md in the early seventies said he wrote his best column while he was high. Nobody bothered to tell him the truth, figuring it was a waste of time (he needed a different day job ). The front of the journalism building was one of the favorite hangouts for sitting in the sun getting stoned on wine and marijuana. I have pictures.

  2. Alarmists seem intent on finding out the hard way.
    People aren’t dumb. Particularly where it involves their daily observations.

  3. Although we have had an extraordinarily warm winter on the west coast of BC.
    Except for local ski hill operators, everyone is quite content.

  4. Reading guardian comments for a laugh. Nutter is such a twit.

  5. Charlie says:

    Boston is running 12 degrees below normal for the month of February. Within another week or two, Boston will have the most snowfall ever recorded breaking all records.

    • markstoval says:

      True enough about Boston and record snow. But they say that it is a hot snow. 🙂

    • PeterK says:

      I’m envious. I wish we would get at least a 3 foot snow fall where I live. I like snow and I love using my 8-horses of snow blowing machine. Only had one occasion to use it this season so far and it was for a measly 4 inches.

      • gator69 says:

        I was just checking on my back saver (I have a 300 foot driveway), and this is how I roll…

        http://www.snowblowersdirect.com/product-images/961920046_11766_600.jpg

        • PeterK says:

          gator: How many horses is your mean machine?

        • gator69 says:

          That’s a really good question. The manual gives the gross torque as 9 lb-ft, but unlike my old thrower which listed its HP on the body (6.5), this thrower has no HP spec that I can find. But it is more than my old thrower.

          I bought it new in the crate from a guy who bids on storage lockers, and paid half price.

      • Gail Combs says:

        Gators I thought lived in the deep south what do you need a machine like that for?
        }:>D

      • Becky says:

        Gosh, it’s so nice to meet selfish people who wish hard labor to his follow humans just so he can play with his new toy. How very unthoughtful of you but I guess that’s also the new normal for America.

        • Gail Combs says:

          At this point I am wishing for a glacier sitting on Boston, Chicago and Detroit. It would be no loss and might give a needed kick in the pants to the whiny brats who have never grown up. (And yes I have lived there).

      • Snowleopard says:

        I have a 16 HP DR brush cutter. In the winter I remove the cutter and replace it with a snow-thrower attachment. But, since my driveway to the road is somewhat longer than 1400 ft, and I have internal driveways to clear, the DR is mostly a backup to my 36 HP Kubota. tractor. Despite being “well equipped,” this year it has been difficult to keep up with the snow removal. Raking roofs is especially difficult once the snow gets as high as the walls!

        • Mark Luhman says:

          I married my present wife in 1993, that winter we had a house in Fargo North Dakota and my wife was from South Dakota and it was her first winter in Fargo, she was totally unprepared for it, she bough a full length down coat and when she was talking to her sister, her sister ask what Mark was doing and when Joan(my wife ) replied raking the roof, her sister figured that Joan was pulling one over on her, sadly she was not, that year Fargo got 60 inches of snow that was only a precursor to the winter of 1997 that we got 117 inches. Try to explain to some one in Arizona the the high for the day is going to be -22 F. Then tell them a few day later that you unzipped you coat at -19 because you got to warm snow blowing out the driveway. I will say winter have improved greatly since now I live 1800 miles away from Fargo, it way 80 degrees today in Mesa AZ. Damn it hard giving up winter. Although I was in Fargo last summer and it look to me they were have a nice winter then.

        • Snowleopard says:

          I am seriously considering “giving up” winter. If this pattern continues, moving will be way easier than rebuilding and adapting.

  6. Dave N says:

    ..and in other news, east coast residents reading KREM 2 news spewed their coffee all over the place, which instantly froze.

    • Gail Combs says:

      “KREM.com is the official website for KREM-TV, Channel 2, your trusted source for breaking news, weather and sports in Spokane, Washington.”

      That accounts for it. They think Boston is Boston, Texas which is 44.4 °F and clear right now with the forecast for today of a high of 51° F and a low of 22° F for tonight.

    • Ernest Bush says:

      Seattle is currently enjoying spring weather a little early. However, today’s 57 degree high is 4 degrees F below the record. I suspect that there hasn’t been a record high temperature set this winter. It has been in the mid to low eighties, mostly compliments of the same high pressure ridge affecting them, in Yuma. We aren’t close to any record highs , either. Today it is supposed to hit 87. The record is 90, set in 1981.

  7. SMS says:

    And what does UAH and RSS have to say? It says that anyone who claims this is the hottest year or warmest winter is FOS.

  8. au1corsair says:

    File this along with “your taxes have been REDUCED from 21% of your gross to 35% of your gross.”

  9. Snowleopard says:

    Climate expert reports (especially government types) now have about the same credibility as government economic reports, unemployment reports and cost of living indexes.

    • Gail Combs says:

      Snowleopard you asked me a question earlier this morning about an article on the Rothschilds. I did not answer then because my Hubby decided to rebuild my computer.

      Here is the answer. (As usual it is LOoooong.)

      I disagree with that article. It dismisses the Banksters as being much less dangerous than they truly are. The Elite have had a plan in place for well over a century. That is a plan to re-establish a feudal society. That is what Agenda 21 is. A modern version of feudalism with the transnational corporations taking the place of the Aristocracy. link An example of implementation: The Demise of Christchurch City New Zealand

      Since that is an ‘extraordinary claim’ I need to back it up with a lot of data. So here goes.
      CONTINUED:

      • Snowleopard says:

        Gail , It is interesting to have a response from someone who may know more about the banksters than I do. I’m still reading through your links. Haven’t found anything I disagree with so far. I could guess that some of what the article considered psychopathic behavior, you and I would consider part of the master plan.

        I do not underestimate the banksters and am expecting them to implement their world gulag (worker’s paradise /s) unless unlikely fortuitous or extreme calamitous events intervene. Ineffective armed resistance is likely, but it is something they look forward to (despite claims to the contrary) as a means of increasing profits and control while blaming the resistance for the deaths of inconvenient opponents. I expect them to try to make things so chaotic that the average person will feel lucky if accepted into one of their sustainable communities (gulags). Obviously any “accepted” folks demonstrating capability of critical thinking and observation would need to be drugged, re-educated or, if necessary, recycled for the good of the community.

        What is your opinion of the major point of the article? Are the banksters psychopaths? Will they turn on each other? Or after NWO is implemented will they be content running their assigned fiefdoms ?.

        • Gail Combs says:

          I am happy to hear you are actually reading my ramblings. The concept of a century or more ‘conspiracy’ by a few families to take over the work is at first glance outrageous. That is why it needs so much information to back it up. Even then people will deny it.

          “What is your opinion of the major point of the article? Are the banksters psychopaths?”

          Yes, the people at the top are sociopaths. They do not see us as human. This is evident if you read between the lines.

          Holdren co-authored Human Ecology: Problems and Solutions with Paul R. Ehrlich and Anne H. Ehrlich in 1973. The book calls for a “massive campaign” to “de-develop the United States” and concludes that redistribution of wealth “both within and among nations is absolutely essential.”

          On page 235 of the book, in a chapter titled “Population Limitation,” Holdren and his co-authors wrote: “The fetus, given the opportunity to develop properly before birth, and given the essential early socializing experiences [socialist brainwashing] and sufficient nourishing food during the crucial early years after birth, will ultimately develop into a human being. Where any of these essential elements is lacking, the resultant individual will be deficient in some respect.”
          http://cnsnews.com/news/article/inhofe-some-senators-share-holdren-s-view-born-babies-are-not-human-beings

          Students in college are going along with this teaching that infants are NOT HUMAN.

          ….Abortion proponents like to paint pro-lifers as extremists who go to great lengths to take away the rights of women. However, many of these abortion activists have views that are legitimately extreme and quite frankly, horrifying. Take, for example, the position that abortion should be legal in cases where the parents conceive a girl but they wanted a boy. Some activists would say women should have the right to an abortion because they shouldn’t be forced to have a child they don’t want.

          But, unfortunately, supporting sex-selection abortion isn’t the worst of their extremist views; there are “pro-choicers” who support killing babies after their born. And according to Thomas Aquinas student, Mairead Mcardle, more college students are supporting post-birth abortion.

          She writes in The College Fix, “Anecdotal evidence by leaders of pro-life groups such as Created Equal and Survivors of the Abortion Holocaust said in interviews that not only do they see more college students willing to say they support post-birth abortion, but some students even suggest children up to 4 or 5-years-old can also be killed, because they are not yet “self aware.”

          She cites the testimony of Mark Harrington, the director of Created Equal. Harrington said, “We encounter people who think it is morally acceptable to kill babies after birth on a regular basis at almost every campus we visit. While this viewpoint is still seen as shocking by most people, it is becoming increasingly popular.”…

          GEE, perhaps we should raise that age up to 22 years…. {:>D

          >>>>>>>>>>>>>

          “Will they turn on each other? Or after NWO is implemented will they be content running their assigned fiefdoms ?”

          They have been co-operating for over one hundred years. I do not see them turning on each other so much as jocking for economic advantage. I also think they really do not want an all out nuclear war.

          They have worked long and hard to come up with a system of slavery/serfdom that works. I believe that the Soviet Union (1917 to 1991) and Communism was one experiment and the European Union the other experiment. When it became obvious that hard line Communism, despite three generations of brainwashing, only lead to resentment and passive aggressive behavior in the cattle chattel they dropped it like a hot potato and the Soviet Union suddenly collapsed.

          As Pascal Lamy has been at pains to point out the European Union is the model they have settled on. Global Governance: Lessons from Europe — What can the world learn about global governance from the diplomatic model of the European Union?

          Daniel Estulin Bilderberg Speech at EU Parliament Press Conference
          …. At the centre of the global financial system are the financial oligarchy today represented by the Bilderberg group.

          Bilderberg organization is dynamic, in that it changes with the times, absorbs and crates new parts while excreting the remains of the decaying parts. Members come and go, but the system itself has not changed. It is a self-perpetuating system, a virtual spider web of interlocked financial, political, economic and industry interests….

          …..The idea behind each and every Bilderberg meeting is to create what they themselves call THE ARISTOCRACY OF PURPOSE between European and North American elites on the best way to manage the planet. In other words, the creation of a global network of giant cartels, more powerful than any nation on Earth, destined to control the necessities of life of the rest of humanity, obviously from their vantage point, for our own good and in our benefit – THE GREAT UNWASHED AS THEY CALL US.….

      • Snowleopard says:

        OK there is a reasonable disagreement here. I’m not sure who is correct, and I guess it doesn’t matter. What happens after banksters have defeated all opposition and established full control is irrelevant to current bankster opponents since most of them will be dead then.

        What might be interesting is finding a way to defeat them before they achieve full control. That would require having a leak proof force large enough to hit all of them “time on target” and the intel to know where all the targets are in real time. Not sure that’s even possible, but if it is, there are probably less than five people in the world who command the resources necessary and they all work for the enemy. Setting up a new force with this capability (under the radar) seems implausible.

    • Gail Combs says:

      #1 The Rothschild/Aristocracy connection to Agenda 21: link and link and link (see the comments above the last comment linked.)

    • Gail Combs says:

      #2. The Bankers/international elite have already captured the corporations. link. The Leveraged Buyouts/Hostile Takeovers during Reagan’s Admin. dismembered and killed wealthy, no-debt mid-level American corporations and transferred the accumulated wealth to the Banksters/International Elite.

      Even the IMF agrees:

      …New convergence and strengthened interdependence coincide with a third trend, relating to income distribution. In many countries the distribution of income has become more unequal, and the top earners’ share of income in particular has risen dramatically. In the United States the share of the top 1 percent has close to tripled over the past three decades, now accounting for about 20 percent of total U.S. income (Alvaredo and others, 2012). At the same time, while the new convergence mentioned above has reduced the distance between advanced and developing economies when they are taken as two aggregates…
      Convergence, Interdependence, and Divergence

      Remember those terms Convergence, Interdependence and Divergence. Those are the goals.

      Convergence of the middle class with the poor ultimately leading to a new serf class.

      Interdependence of nations ultimately leading to ‘Global Governance’ aka a world government.

      Divergence of the elite from the middle class leading to a new Ruling Class.

      CONTINUED:

    • Gail Combs says:

      #3. The destruction of the USA was PLANNED since the new nation’s inception. (See my comments on the Karl Marx Deception starting HERE. ) If I am correct, Karl Marx was paid by the bankers and aristocracy to come up with a philosophy that would take the place of the Roman Catholic Empire that gave the ruling class legitimacy for a thousand years. (Divine Right of Kings.)

      KARL MARX

      Notice that the target of Karl Marx is the bourgeoisie, the middle class and NOT the aristocracy/Ruling Elite.

      The bourgeoisie, wherever it has got the upper hand, has put an end to all feudal, patriarchal, idyllic relations. It has pitilessly torn asunder the motley feudal ties that bound man to his ‘natural superiors,’ and has left remaining no other nexus between man and man than naked self-interest, callous ‘cash payment.’ It has drowned the most heavenly ecstasies of religious fervor, of chivalrous enthusiasm, of philistine sentimentalism, in the icy water of egotistical calculation. It has resolved personal worth into exchange value, and in place of the numberless indefeasible chartered freedoms, has set up that single, unconscionable freedom—Free Trade. In one word, for exploitation, veiled by religious and political illusions, it has substituted naked, shameless, direct, brutal exploitation.

      The bourgeoisie has stripped of its halo every occupation hitherto honored and looked up to with reverent awe. It has converted the physician, the lawyer, the priest, the poet, the man of science, into its paid wage laborers.

      The bourgeoisie has torn away from the family its sentimental veil, and has reduced the family relation to a mere money relation.” ? Karl Marx, The Communist Manifesto

      The Marx family was courted by a member of the German Aristocracy AFTER the fall of the Holy Roman Empire ( August 1806) Baron Ludwig von Westphalen was son of the de facto “chief of staff” to Duke Ferdinand of Brunswick during the Seven Years’ War (1754 – 1763) That war reshuffled the ownership of the colonies in the Americas, Africa and India. Through his mother von Westphalen was the descendant of many Scottish and European noble families. He was transferred to Trier in 1816 and his daughter married Karl Marx.

      Also of note in 1816, four of the five Rothschild brothers were granted noble status (Freiherr or Baron) by the Emperor of Austria All five brothers were granted nobility in 1822 .link

      Nathan Rothschild (1777–1836) married Karl Marx’s grandmother’s first cousin.

      A wealth banker, his mother’s brother Benjamin Philips, financed Marx.

      ….Marx was born into the Jewish business class. His father was a lawyer, for businesses, and he owned vinyards. His maternal grandfather was a textile merchant and banker. His grandmother’s first cousin married Nathan Rothschild, founder of the British branch of the Rothschild banking dynasty. Lion Philips’ brother Benjamin was a “banker and industrialist”. Lion’s son Frederick was a banker….
      http://www.discussionist.com/?com=view_post&forum=1015&pid=61017

      Nathan Rothschild (grandson, the first UK Baron Rothschild – 1840–1915) was executor of Cecil Rhodes will ( 1902)

      CONTINUED:

    • Gail Combs says:

      What is the Nathan Rothschild — Cecil Rhodes connection?

      In October 1871, 18-year-old Rhodes and his brother Herbert left the colony for the diamond fields of Kimberley. Financed by N M Rothschild & Sons, Rhodes succeeded over the next 17 years in buying up all the smaller diamond mining operations in the Kimberley area. His monopoly of the world’s diamond supply was sealed in 1889 through a strategic partnership with the London-based Diamond Syndicate…..

      In his last will and testament, Rhodes said of the British, “I contend that we are the finest race in the world and that the more of the world we inhabit the better it is for the human race. Just fancy those parts that are at present inhabited by the most despicable specimens of human beings what an alteration there would be if they were brought under Anglo-Saxon influence, look again at the extra employment a new country added to our dominions gives.”[23] He wanted to make the British Empire a superpower in which all of the British-dominated countries in the empire, including Canada, Australia, New Zealand, and Cape Colony, would be represented in the British Parliament.[24] Rhodes included American students as eligible for the Rhodes scholarships. He said that he wanted to breed an American elite of philosopher-kings who would have the United States rejoin the British Empire. As Rhodes also respected the Germans and admired the Kaiser, he allowed German students to be included in the Rhodes scholarships. He believed that eventually the United Kingdom (including Ireland), the USA, and Germany together would dominate the world and ensure peace. — WIKI

      As a result of the Rhodes Will you have the Rhodes Scholarship (Think Bill Clinton) and more important the Milner Round Tables. The Council on Foreign Relations and The Committee on Economic Development are two of the Round Tables. Nicole Johnson has traced the destruction of US independent Farmers directly to the deliberate policies of the Committee on Economic Development link

      The other interesting Nathan Rothschild connection is to the Fabian Society. – link

      How successful are the Elite in reducing the middle class to poverty?

      Breaking up the family

      The Drugging of our children
      CONTINUED:

    • Gail Combs says:

      If you want to know what the goal of the International Banksters are, an excellent source of information is

      THIRD WORLD TRAVELER
      [It] is an archive of articles and book excerpts that seek to tell the truth about American democracy, media, and foreign policy, and about the impact of the actions of the United States government, central banks, global financial….

      [Carroll Quigley was Bill Clinton’s mentor]
      “During the past two centuries when the peoples of the world were gradually winning their political freedom from the dynastic monarchies, the major banking families of Europe and America were actually reversing the trend by setting up new dynasties of political control through the formation of international financial combines. These banking dynasties had learned that all governments must have sources of revenue from which to borrow in times of emergency. They had also learned that by providing such funds from their own private resources, they could make both kings and democratic leaders tremendously subservient to their will.” — Carroll Quigley in his book “Tragedy and Hope”

      “The master planners devised the strategy of a merger – a Great Merger – among nations.

      But before such a merger can be consummated, and the United States becomes just another province in a New World Order, there must at least be the semblance of parity among the senior partners in the deal. How does one make the nations of the world more nearly equal? The Insiders determined that a two-prong approach was needed; use American money and know-how to build up your competitors, while at the same time use every devious strategy you can devise to weaken and impoverish this country. The goal is not to bankrupt the United States. Rather, it is to reduce our productive might, and therefore our standard of living, to the meager subsistence level of the socialized nations of the world.
      The plan is not to bring the standard of living in less developed countries up to our level, but to bring ours down to meet theirs coming up… It is your standard of living which must be sacrificed on the altar of the New World Order.” — Gary Allen in his book “The Rockefeller File”

      “There is a transnational ruling class, a “Superclass”, that agrees on establishing a world government. The middle class is targeted for elimination, because most of the world has no middle class, and to fully integrate and internationalize a middle class, would require industrialization and development in Africa, and certain places in Asia and Latin America. The goal of the Superclass is not to lose their wealth and power to a transnational middle class, but rather to extinguish the notion of a middle class, and transnationalize a lower, uneducated, labor oriented class, through which they will secure ultimate wealth and power.
      The global economic crisis serves these ends, as whatever remaining wealth the middle class holds is in the process of being eliminated, and as the crisis progresses, the middle classes of the world will suffer, while a great percentage of lower classes of the world, poverty-stricken even prior to the crisis, will suffer the greatest, most probably leading to a massive reduction in population levels, particularly in the “underdeveloped” or “Third World” states.” —- Andrew Gavin Marshall

  10. AndyG55 says:

    It most certainly is not

    http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/temp-and-precip/national-temperature-index/time-series?datasets%5B%5D=uscrn&datasets%5B%5D=cmbushcn&parameter=anom-tavg&time_scale=3mo&begyear=1900&endyear=2015&month=1

    note: this is the 3 month ending January (latest available, app doesn’t do 2-month)
    nowhere near the warmest
    Winter is DJF over there isn’t it?

    No data for Feb yet, but USCRN seems pretty quick to get data up…
    …. probably because it doesn’t “require” adjustments.

    If you look at the December one month anomaly, it was app there though, but not as high as 1936 and 1956 (dates guessed from chart so +/1 a year)

    http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/temp-and-precip/national-temperature-index/time-series?datasets%5B%5D=uscrn&datasets%5B%5D=cmbushcn&parameter=anom-tavg&time_scale=1mo&begyear=1900&endyear=2015&month=12

  11. KTM says:

    Salt Lake City has been very warm the last month, but December was bitterly cold and windy. Also, our snow pack is at 85% of normal, which they didn’t report. Instead they quoted the low snowpack of California.

    This report is cherry picking the most alarmist pieces of information without reporting the whole story.

  12. Marsh says:

    I can only conclude, it’s a desperate ploy to bolster the scant AGW evidence towards the UN Conference in Paris this year on Climate Change. The reality would defeat them, so the farce
    has gone from data tampering to pure fiction . Just wondering what it would take for Warmists to admit to any Cooling ; ” hell to freeze over “… for some , that is it !

  13. dp says:

    When your only climate grid is the size of the US it is possible to say ridiculous things in the name of science. Smart people know that weather is regional and really smart people know climate is regional.

    Climate scientists have too many among their number who are apparently too stupid for the classic sciences and have jumped on climate science as a last gasp way to feed their ego and to make their parents feel good about the money they wasted on educating their spawn. No other explanation makes as much sense.

    • rah says:

      There may come a time when a climate scientist would rather tell people he or she is a bookie or a numbers runner or prostitute than to tell them the truth about what he or she really does.

      • Gail Combs says:

        May that time come very very soon!

        Actually I rather see the time come when we can see the televised trials of the top ClimAstrologists who have KNOWINGLY lied to the public.

      • gator69 says:

        The damage is done, climate scientists are already giving prostitutes a bad name.

  14. g2-9ed9acc685824c6663c51c5b093476cc says:

    Looks like Jon Gruber’s not the only academic elitist who’s counting on “never going broke underestimating the intelligence of the American public.”

    Who’d’ve thought there’d be so many Mencken disciples on the Left?

  15. ralphcramdo says:

    I’m sure the folks living in the Boston area will agree that it’s the warmest winter ever.

  16. Dan W. says:

    if one’s feet were boiled in water and one’s head was frozen at 0 degrees the geniuses at KREM would declare the person to have an average body temperature.

  17. Kevin says:

    Maybe we are going about this the wrong way. Global warming would require us to use less Natural gas and electric to heat our homes and businesses. I think a good question to ask is if we are burning more or less natural gas to heat our buildings.

  18. gator69 says:

    Is that ‘Kremlin’ 2 news?

  19. FTOP_T says:

    I have found a way to read all these alarmist predictions without losing my mind.

    Every time an article says “climate change” replace it with “a lack of unicorns” then the articles make sense. For example, “climate change is making the ocean’s more acidic” becomes “a lack of unicorns is making the oceans more acidic”. Now the phrase makes sense since there are no unicorns and the ocean is clearly alkaline.

    • Neal S says:

      Isn’t that backwards? Shouldn’t it be just ‘unicorns’ instead of ‘lack of unicorns’? Other than that minor issue, I thought it very funny. Thanks for sharing.

  20. kirkmyers says:

    KREM2 forgot to mention that up is down, left is right, and fire is cold.

    Yes, some areas in the West have been warm the past few months, but the warming there pales in comparison to the record-cold weather impacting the Northeast, parts of the Midwest, and now the Southeast.

    The Warmists are becoming increasingly frantic in their attempts to breathe new life into their dying global warming monster. Fewer and fewer people are taking them seriously. It’s sad to see otherwise rational adults succumb to such nonsense.

    • Gail Combs says:

      Warmists are definitely losing the battle. You can only keep the scare going for so long before it becomes a YAWN.

      http://conservativehideout.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/1-15-2015-priorities_001.jpg

      • rah says:

        Uh hu and I would propose that we see one of the results of their disgrace by the fact that “Scientific Research” is only one step above “Global Warming” as a priority in that same survey. The climate shamsters will and already have started a trend for the public looking at all science with a jaundiced eye.

        • Marsh says:

          You make a good point rah ; I’m surprised Moral breakdown is 6 steps away from Scientific Research as they are so closely linked. The damage done to Science as a profession is immense ; many in the industry will go so far as to change their job title.

      • Marsh says:

        Yes Gail it is a relief, the true Government focus almost sidelines Global Warming on the Chart. Will be interesting to see where GW is next year , maybe gone altogether ; one can hope.

        • Gail Combs says:

          Unfortunately the survey is of public opinion. The US government does not LISTEN to public opinion it trys to SHAPE public opinion through MSM propaganda.

          This survey says the MSM are failing miserably in their brainwashing efforts.

        • Marsh says:

          Sorry, obviously I’m not in the States, my view comes from a British & Australian perspective where
          public opinion is front & centre or leaders / governments are booted out on a no confidence vote.
          Obviously there are different degrees in democracy, the US public as a whole is short changed on this one, seeing how propaganda has a greater role in shaping the state of play.

          My US friends have a greater challenge of course,,, but issues like AGW spill over Internationally.

  21. A C Osborn says:

    A while back we had forums posting the numbers of hot v Cold records being broken.
    It would be interesting to see how the latest weather has impacted those values.

  22. desertspeaks says:

    Who are you going to believe, professional propagandists or your lying eyes???

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